tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7370534.post5920665394938619862..comments2023-10-31T04:37:20.113-07:00Comments on Bloviating Zeppelin: Next Up For Obama: HEALTHCAREBloviating Zeppelinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01359816456769157176noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7370534.post-75227812199469241732009-05-07T10:57:00.000-07:002009-05-07T10:57:00.000-07:00Thanks Chris, I'll go check it out!
BZThanks Chris, I'll go check it out!<br /><br />BZBloviating Zeppelinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01359816456769157176noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7370534.post-65685515077626137602009-05-07T06:13:00.000-07:002009-05-07T06:13:00.000-07:00well, those who are for govt run health care need ...well, those who are for govt run health care need to get sick and go to a VA hospital. 100% govt run health care at its finest. I am a veteran and I called a month ago to see the doctor, they didn't have an appointment for 2 months!!!!! all of you people who want that sub par system, imagine what the VA system will be like when there is no private industry for healthcare.<br /><br />BZ - I urge you to go to my buddy's blog again to read about the VA thing. he is a vet like me (young ones that is !!!) and he has a wonderful post on govt run care.<br /><br />freedomfront.blogspot.com<br /><br />I go online with my phone so I can't paste the actual link on here, sorry about not having a hot link, and only having the urlChrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16134238646194230186noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7370534.post-64786048644269538522009-05-07T06:06:00.000-07:002009-05-07T06:06:00.000-07:00CB: The upper left corner of the world is looking ...CB: The upper left corner of the world is looking better and better, eh?<br /><br />Rivka: because it's the GOVERNMENT.<br /><br />AJ: EVERY point you write is valid! But the Left will not tolerate anything but perfection in their worldly vacuum. And there is a GREAT difference between THEIR perfection and reality.<br /><br />Maggie: yes, at this point the government isn't even CONSIDERING the physician factor.<br /><br />AOW: yes, we are screwed. But what the young don't realize is that, as bad as it'll be for US, it will be geometrically WORSE for them. <br /><br />Instead of needing organ transplants or dialysis in our 60s and 70s, this current generation of overweight, coddled, pampered, physically unfit morons will have their hearts exploding in their late 20s and early 30s. At just the perfect time: when government healthcare will suffer from even GREATER rationing. There will then be, at that point, so few persons making fiscal input into the system vs. those unfit, obese coneheads that they'll be dying off at a greater rate than you and I ever envisioned.<br /><br />BZBloviating Zeppelinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01359816456769157176noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7370534.post-88455238635202477272009-05-07T05:26:00.000-07:002009-05-07T05:26:00.000-07:00I used to think that BHO couldn't get such a plan ...I used to think that BHO couldn't get such a plan through Congress as national health care has always led to a Congressional dead end, the exception being Medicare, of course.<br /><br />Now I am convinced that national health care, not called exactly that because such a label would send up too many red flags, will be in force by January 1, 2010.<br /><br />We over age 50 are screwed!Always On Watchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08192688822955022541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7370534.post-81928084212491410442009-05-06T17:39:00.000-07:002009-05-06T17:39:00.000-07:00This terrifies me about as much as any of the Obam...This terrifies me about as much as any of the Obama policies. Once private healthcare is dismantled, it will take years to move back to an efficient private sector. In the meantime, we have all the emotional trauma of losing good doctors we trust, while the government builds the perfect way to hold us hostage - our health. I can visualize the government doing the scheduling and if you are not a supporter you get shoved even farther back in the line. In fact, you may never get to the top, and if you do get there, you may get the guy at the bottom of his medical school graduating class...because you are a right wing extremist.<br /><br />Maybe the doctors won't need to go to medical school. Silly me.Maggie Thorntonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01681328690482778919noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7370534.post-2302806794768975942009-05-06T17:36:00.000-07:002009-05-06T17:36:00.000-07:00And under the Obama conception your doctor just 'm...And under the Obama conception your doctor just 'might' be allowed to have some say on your health care... plus an 'ethicist' and all sorts of other people to determine if you are worthy of treatment.<br /><br />Notice who is missing in that?<br /><br />You are.<br /><br />You will no longer have a say on your own healthcare... and for that we will bankrupt the country farther, deeper, faster and worse than any European country.<br /><br />When will we realize that subsidizing healthcare gets us the problems of subsidies: uneconomical use of it?<br /><br />And that 'free' healthcare gets you: the tragedy of the commons. Britain has a dearth of UK doctors so they have to import them from Pakistan. Such a help, that is!<br /><br />And then there is the <A HREF="http://ajacksonian.blogspot.com/2009/04/gdp-government-spending-and-your-tax.html" REL="nofollow">government overhead problem</A> which comes with government intervention in health care. Soon it turns into <A HREF="http://ajacksonian.blogspot.com/2009/04/ternary-graphs-and-what-they-do-for-you.html" REL="nofollow">the NASA program dilemma</A>.<br /><br />You can have low cost health care.<br />You can have high quality health care.<br />You can have readily available health care.<br /><br />Choose 2 out of 3.<br /><br />Yes, they are that way, and think about it just a bit and you will realize it. And even much lauded Germany is looking to off-load its portion onto the private system... which you wouldn't have if government was able to do all 3 simultaneously. If you think it is 'broken' now, just wait until government steps in.A Jacksonianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07607888697879327120noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7370534.post-58557983375495736522009-05-06T16:59:00.000-07:002009-05-06T16:59:00.000-07:00Carlisle boy,
Exactly.. Look at medicare and look ...Carlisle boy,<br />Exactly.. Look at medicare and look at the U.S. Postal service! Someone in my family works for the postal service. He has LOTS of stories where he got in trouble going out of his way to help a customer. Not just one but several. He didn't violate any rules, but they are on a 'time' frame and even though it didn't put him back any time, he got in trouble. He is the kind of guy who does his work with excellence and likes to help people, but when you work for the government they don't give a flip about their customers. Also, the way they do things at the post office is totally ridiculous. A lot of times it doesn't make sense. This is what they will do with our health care.Rivkahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17074803139812941783noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7370534.post-10815246588153301692009-05-06T16:30:00.000-07:002009-05-06T16:30:00.000-07:00I just can not believe that ANYBODY thinks Sociali...I just can not believe that ANYBODY thinks Socialized Health Care is a good Thing. Look at how Fu@ked up Medicare is NOW!! Just imagine when all 300 million of us are on the rolls. And Does anyone else find it chilling that some little gvt bureacratic freak will have full access to our medical records?<br />The Alaska Independence Party is looking better and better!Carlisleboyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10946443702898587022noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7370534.post-90430927777122597912009-05-06T15:16:00.000-07:002009-05-06T15:16:00.000-07:00Larry: that's the ultimate point -- "wait 'till it...Larry: that's the ultimate point -- "wait 'till it's 'free'."<br /><br />BZBloviating Zeppelinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01359816456769157176noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7370534.post-17597061136438142672009-05-06T12:58:00.000-07:002009-05-06T12:58:00.000-07:00BZ, excellent point about why the next supreme cou...BZ, excellent point about why the next supreme court nominee won't be an Asian. Amazingly, Asians seem to have assimilated and have rejected the "victimhood" associated with...others in our multi-culti society.<br /><br />And as I've heard said many times: you think health care is expensive now...wait til it's "free".Thomas Lawrencehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16715804034327241877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7370534.post-80037642621904178882009-05-06T12:21:00.000-07:002009-05-06T12:21:00.000-07:00ACORN. There's a joke. But the national ACORN Ob...ACORN. There's a joke. But the national ACORN ObamaCorps is brewing, in order to develop new, young government dependents!<br /><br />BZBloviating Zeppelinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01359816456769157176noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7370534.post-87998413963859943952009-05-06T11:15:00.000-07:002009-05-06T11:15:00.000-07:00I visit a blogger by the name of Canadian Sentinel...I visit a blogger by the name of Canadian Sentinel who has told me horror stories about Canada's health care, some personal and some not. It's a horrid system, but then any system run by socialism is horrible. But we have to grin and bear it, I guess, because there's nothing we can do about it now.<br /><br />Two people from Acorn are up on charges for voter fraud. Just two! I'm sure there are more than two who illegally helped get us into this horrid situation.Gaylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02540710405153666843noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7370534.post-31401230991576016852009-05-06T10:32:00.000-07:002009-05-06T10:32:00.000-07:00The Left is all about various "chilling effects"; ...The Left is all about various "chilling effects"; I submit that hamstringing the ability of doctors to earn above and beyond that of, say, an auto mechanic, will GUARANTEE a continuing lack of doctors and nurses in our future.<br /><br />People NEED to be motivated to achieve above and beyond; MONEY is the key way of doing this. ALTRUISM won't work in and of itself in the real world.<br /><br />BZBloviating Zeppelinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01359816456769157176noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7370534.post-2236327061005453392009-05-06T09:04:00.000-07:002009-05-06T09:04:00.000-07:00Again, my son in law is a doctor doing his residen...Again, my son in law is a doctor doing his residency. He has had 12-14 years of school after high school to specialize in a certain practice. He has school bills left to pay AND mal-practice insurance which is high for doctors. NOW after all this hard work and believe me they work hard..After only having 2 more years left of his residency he is facing socialized health care which will tie his hands and reduce his income. That isn't right.Rivkahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17074803139812941783noreply@blogger.com