tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7370534.post6220269174876707249..comments2023-10-31T04:37:20.113-07:00Comments on Bloviating Zeppelin: The Left: Where Tolerance, The Law & Grace Never MatterBloviating Zeppelinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01359816456769157176noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7370534.post-87529486638135900492008-11-18T07:43:00.000-08:002008-11-18T07:43:00.000-08:00Here are Jefferson's own words on the subject.Sepa...Here are Jefferson's own words on the subject.<BR/><BR/>Separation of Church and State<BR/><I>"Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely<BR/>between man and his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith<BR/>or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions<BR/>only, and not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of<BR/>the whole American people which declared that their legislature should<BR/>'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the<BR/>free exercise thereof,' thus building a wall of separation between Church<BR/>and State."</I><BR/>--Letter to the Danbury (Conn.) Baptist Association, January 1, 1802Ranandohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17960506738092037298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7370534.post-56644584188546197422008-11-18T06:25:00.000-08:002008-11-18T06:25:00.000-08:00Ranando,I think you missed the point I was making....Ranando,<BR/><BR/>I think you missed the point I was making. What they teach in public is a leftist humanistic religion. Yet you claim it is 'religion free' right now. The point I was making was that you expect us to fund that 'belief system' which is one you don't have a problem with. <BR/><BR/>You say you are against any kind of 'religion' taught in schools, but there is a religion being taught every day there led by humanists. By the way you can't use the argument of 'muslim', jewish, hindu etc.. It should be judeo Christian because that is what it used to be and what this country was founded on- our constitution and our laws. <BR/><BR/>Seperation of Church and State has been totally misinterpreted by the left and filtered into our society as truth for a long time now. It is another accepted lie.Rivkahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17074803139812941783noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7370534.post-66967603729389242732008-11-17T16:27:00.000-08:002008-11-17T16:27:00.000-08:00Man you guys are full of shit!Man you guys are full of shit!Bdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16577053490433489212noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7370534.post-47325230128346207512008-11-17T15:21:00.000-08:002008-11-17T15:21:00.000-08:00Rivka,If you're willing to send your kids to a sch...Rivka,<BR/><BR/>If you're willing to send your kids to a school that you don't approve of, than your problems go way beyound Religion in Public Schools.<BR/><BR/>I can't even imagine.Ranandohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17960506738092037298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7370534.post-92028500636205406032008-11-17T11:46:00.000-08:002008-11-17T11:46:00.000-08:00Ranando,Would you be willing to help pay for my ki...Ranando,<BR/>Would you be willing to help pay for my kids private school since I am paying for public via my taxes. In public my kids are being indoctrinated with the left's religion: Skewed history books where the real history of the past has been altered or taken out, and plenty of liberal social engineering. <BR/><BR/>I hate to break this to you but atheism, leftism -(humanism) and really any kind of thought either for or against God is a type of 'belief' system or 'religion'. <BR/><BR/>If you want to know 'what type' to put in our schools, let's try putting back the judeo-Christian values our country was founded on and the same standard of curriculum that was once in our schools. Children had to learn latin, and had to know Greek in order to study their bibles. They had to memorize bible verses. A 10 year old was smarter than most high school students are today and character was important.<BR/><BR/>If you compare the schools back then to the way they are now it is astounding how horrible they have become.Rivkahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17074803139812941783noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7370534.post-31912155680859161472008-11-16T09:52:00.000-08:002008-11-16T09:52:00.000-08:00I believe if Religion was taught in schools as a g...<I>I believe if Religion was taught in schools as a guide line, a sort of consequence for actions in life, things would be better.</I><BR/><BR/>That’s fine but once again I ask, which Religion?<BR/><BR/>Yours?<BR/>Mine?<BR/>Islam?<BR/>Hebrew?<BR/>Witchcraft?<BR/>Catholicism?<BR/>Mooney’s?<BR/>Morman?<BR/>JW?<BR/>Rev. Wright?<BR/>Satanism?<BR/><BR/>To me it’s really quite simple. If you want Religion taught in your school, send your kids to a church or private school.Ranandohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17960506738092037298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7370534.post-84997046185127857632008-11-15T23:28:00.000-08:002008-11-15T23:28:00.000-08:00The people of California have voted and that shoul...<I> The people of California have voted and that should be the end of it.</I><BR/><BR/>You'd think...<BR/><BR/><BR/>Unbelievable how the intolerant screaming activists have been allowed to frame the debate as a "civil rights" issue.<BR/><BR/>Interesting, too, that they protest the Mormon Church, but aren't out there protesting black churches.The WordSmith from Nantuckethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15937868119894243815noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7370534.post-51338552421435222092008-11-15T20:44:00.000-08:002008-11-15T20:44:00.000-08:00Echotig: thanks for taking a stance here!BZEchotig: thanks for taking a stance here!<BR/><BR/>BZBloviating Zeppelinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01359816456769157176noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7370534.post-1299727212078870932008-11-15T19:42:00.000-08:002008-11-15T19:42:00.000-08:00I find it funny that the minute shit goes sideways...I find it funny that the minute shit goes sideways the first thing that happens to MOST people is they get religion.<BR/><BR/>For example I bet there are a ton of folks in Cali that are screaming "Oh God why did this happen to me"<BR/><BR/>Very shortly after shit happens a lot turn to religion for solace.<BR/><BR/>I believe if Religion was taught in schools as a guide line, a sort of consequence for actions in life, things would be better.<BR/><BR/>I dont give a shit for for some overly religious people but I also cant stand those that will insult the WHOLE religion belief based on their feelings.. Truthfully I hope there is a hell for those people.Bushwackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04526043643313096753noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7370534.post-72334786510698555552008-11-15T18:22:00.000-08:002008-11-15T18:22:00.000-08:00Religious cocksucking?? Interesting choice of word...Religious cocksucking?? Interesting choice of words there! The very laws of our land were built on RELIGIOUS MORALITY.You know this but apparently people just can't stomach the thought of being told their behavior is wrong. <BR/><BR/>Homosexuals CAN NOT change the definition of words. They think it's no big deal but it is. If you don't think so then let's change the definition of some other words and see how well that works out. Let's change the word Gay. Because Homosexuals are anything but happy.<BR/><BR/>I don't hate Homosexuals but right now they aren't doing a damn thing for themselves but making it VERY hard to everyone else to tolerate their ridiculous, obscene behavior.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7370534.post-68951611169818573402008-11-15T17:12:00.000-08:002008-11-15T17:12:00.000-08:00Since you addresed me "Z" let me answer.I don't wa...Since you addresed me "Z" let me answer.<BR/><BR/>I don't want your Religious Cocksucking beliefs in my Government, my State, or my schools.<BR/><BR/>I pay taxes just like you.<BR/><BR/>Believe me, your beliefs threaten me more than Gays ever will.Ranandohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17960506738092037298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7370534.post-25424334893411328462008-11-15T16:55:00.000-08:002008-11-15T16:55:00.000-08:00ranando, can you show where anyone who's against g...ranando, can you show where anyone who's against gays marrying are 'threatened'? that's like saying straight couples have said they need to defend their marriages..WHO has ever said that but Bill Clinton when the bill he signed the DEFENSE OF MARRIAGE act was put into law. NOWHERE else will you find anyone saying "we have to defend straight marriage!"<BR/><BR/>And, there are a lot of people who aren't religious but feel marriage should be left to straight couples.<BR/><BR/>Which 'moral values' would you choose not to live by since it would offend you to do anything the religious right promotes?Zhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15989573357446569262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7370534.post-43137560075149386142008-11-15T16:32:00.000-08:002008-11-15T16:32:00.000-08:00It doesn’t matter if I’m for or against Prop 8, it...It doesn’t matter if I’m for or against Prop 8, it’s not important. The people of California have voted and that should be the end of it.<BR/><BR/>If it’s overturned it will be a sad day for America.<BR/><BR/>With that sad, I’m not threatened by Gays. I’m much more threatened by the Religious Right and the fanatics that think we should live by their moral values. Religious Right and Morals, what a crock of Shit.<BR/><BR/>There’s an old saying, “Those that scream the loudest are usually guilty of what they’re screaming about”.Ranandohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17960506738092037298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7370534.post-46374493668377198602008-11-15T15:37:00.000-08:002008-11-15T15:37:00.000-08:00I went to the San Diego pro gay marriage protest r...I went to the San Diego pro gay marriage protest rally thingy today with a fellow blogger. Got pics up and vid is on it's way.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04857256432575107386noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7370534.post-87923484824598722872008-11-15T14:52:00.000-08:002008-11-15T14:52:00.000-08:00Progressing backwards is, unfortunately, a most ap...Progressing backwards is, unfortunately, a most appropriate statement, AJ.<BR/><BR/>BZBloviating Zeppelinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01359816456769157176noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7370534.post-86430347943858428422008-11-15T08:40:00.000-08:002008-11-15T08:40:00.000-08:00The Left wishes to throw away Westphalia... they d...The Left wishes to throw away Westphalia... they don't want to learn about the past or even think that a 30 years war is possible due to their ideas on religion.<BR/><BR/>Thus we will repeat the mistake, again, on a global basis this time. Because they are progressing backwards at a horrific rate...A Jacksonianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07607888697879327120noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7370534.post-74832145056020382502008-11-15T07:50:00.000-08:002008-11-15T07:50:00.000-08:00I saw the list of businesses the FREAKS are passin...I saw the list of businesses the FREAKS are passing out to boycott. They include several that gave money to BOTH sides.<BR/><BR/>Anyway I am seriously hoping for a counter protest plan by someone other than religious entities. I think religion has done it's part now its time for some fire with fire tactics, and I think the people of the cloth lack the anger/rage that needs to be unleashed.<BR/><BR/>After seeing the FREAKS beat up the old lady I am in a RAGE state. The good lord might need to save a FREAK if I happen to run across a protest today.Bushwackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04526043643313096753noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7370534.post-63592974653688102762008-11-15T07:26:00.000-08:002008-11-15T07:26:00.000-08:00Let their hate fester and become visible.In the Ci...Let their hate fester and become visible.<BR/><BR/>In the Civil Rights movement for blacks it was the status quo that was hateful and violent, for the most part. In the "struggle for gay rights and dignity" it is those calling for change who are hateful and violent, not the status quo. That shows a major difference between the two causes.shoprathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05265612188236394307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7370534.post-61789357389185403642008-11-14T21:54:00.000-08:002008-11-14T21:54:00.000-08:00I guess I just will never understand it. The poli...I guess I just will never understand it. The politics of those weirdos is just as disgusting and perverted as their lifestlyes. Are all of the leftards on the left coast actually queer, or do they not see that life choice as being as perverted as I do? I mean even the most left leaning of people I know find it disgusting.Average Americanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17211406136371011324noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7370534.post-26265747715534417982008-11-14T21:02:00.000-08:002008-11-14T21:02:00.000-08:00They're only tolerant when it fits their agenda. O...They're only tolerant when it fits their agenda. Otherwise, they're truly hateful bastards.Pasadena Closet Conservativehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05837317472523209555noreply@blogger.com