tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7370534.post7306569896732833795..comments2023-10-31T04:37:20.113-07:00Comments on Bloviating Zeppelin: A Lie?Bloviating Zeppelinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01359816456769157176noreply@blogger.comBlogger29125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7370534.post-27132354995449522232010-03-07T07:40:57.899-08:002010-03-07T07:40:57.899-08:00Greybeard,
Its not like Tim and I don't hold ...Greybeard,<br /><br />Its not like Tim and I don't hold our founding documents in high regard. Its not like we are not paying attention to the constitution. The question is, where is the evidence that the birthers' claims are true? The nature of the evidence matters at least as much as the charge. Where is the evidence that Obama was not a natural born citizen? If he was born on U.S soil, according to our constitution, he is a natural born citizen. This is part of the reason why we have a problem with children of Illegal aliens in this country. I could claim that Obama, is not human at all, that he is an extraterrestrial come here to Earth with the goal of enslaving mankind, under the Blargarpian empire and his presidency is really just a means to that end. Now while that would be important, if true, you wouldn't take anyone seriously who made such an absurd, baseless claim.<br /><br />There are several people in the anti Jihad movement that other have suggested should run for president here, including <a href="http://analekta-informatics.blogspot.com/2010/02/america-s-first-anti-sharia-candidate.html" rel="nofollow">Vijay Kumar</a>, <a href="http://www.citizenwarrior.com/2010/01/action-alert-support-geert-wilders.html" rel="nofollow">Geert Wilders</a>, and <a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/patcondell#p/u/3/KjSjpNe1-Vc" rel="nofollow">Pat Condell</a>. Now truth be told, I would have disagreements with each of those people. But I think that any of them, would make a better president than Obama at this point. But every time someone suggested that one of them become our next president, I had to tell them, that, that can't happen, because our constitution doesn't allow people born outside the united states to become president.Damienhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02691850040385670009noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7370534.post-41249017291844091302010-03-07T03:30:57.865-08:002010-03-07T03:30:57.865-08:00Nonsense?
Yeah, that stupid Constitution!
Why pay ...Nonsense?<br />Yeah, that stupid Constitution!<br />Why pay attention to such an old, outdated document anyway?Greybeardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11919862790973521778noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7370534.post-42485934212765695172010-03-06T20:44:19.931-08:002010-03-06T20:44:19.931-08:00Tim,
I agree with you. Its a waste of time to ke...Tim,<br /><br />I agree with you. Its a waste of time to keep harping on this, and it won't help defeat Barrack Obama come next election. We have plenty of good reasons to oppose him that have nothing to do with this nonsense.Damienhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02691850040385670009noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7370534.post-36677896933561772712010-03-06T19:31:49.544-08:002010-03-06T19:31:49.544-08:00Maybe I'm the only one to realize that Barrack...Maybe I'm the only one to realize that Barrack Obama SR. WAS BORN IN KENYA! Therefore, this sign is true, no? Barrack Obama II was born in America. Let it go already. There is nothing here to see. Move along.Timhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07614691324815885803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7370534.post-3270603581229428392010-03-05T16:11:43.715-08:002010-03-05T16:11:43.715-08:00Really CJ? So...you calling me 'brain-dead'...Really CJ? So...you calling me 'brain-dead' in the other thread is not name calling. Stop being hypocriticalAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7370534.post-26450504874667718822010-03-05T15:47:14.882-08:002010-03-05T15:47:14.882-08:00Yes, provided he didn't have "dual citize...Yes, provided he didn't have "dual citizenship", but there is the possibility, since his father was a British subject, that that might be the case. (This is the reason the Governor of Michigan cannot legally run for POTUS.)<br /><br />Then there is the unanswered question about how he entered Indonesia and stayed there during a time when U.S. Visas were not being honored there.<br />You tell me...<br />He freely admits being schooled there. How'd he do that? (British citizenship?)<br /><br />He needs to open up his records but has refused to do so.<br />Where there's smoke, there's fire.Greybeardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11919862790973521778noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7370534.post-84814200783942516772010-03-05T15:31:43.007-08:002010-03-05T15:31:43.007-08:00Greybeard,
If he was born on U.S Soil, even if on...Greybeard,<br /><br />If he was born on U.S Soil, even if only one of his parents was a citizen, does that not make him a natural born U.S citizen under the constitution? This is part of the problem we have with the children of illegal aliens, even if neither of their parents are citizens, the fourteenth amendment clearly gives citizenship to anyone born here.<br /><br />Here's the part where it mentions that.<br /><br /><i><b>Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.</b></i><br /><br /><a href="http://www.ask.com/wiki/Fourteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution" rel="nofollow">Source</a>Damienhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02691850040385670009noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7370534.post-81295210812245764702010-03-05T14:56:59.711-08:002010-03-05T14:56:59.711-08:00Literacy!
Did you read my comment, Damien?
The Bir...Literacy!<br />Did you read my comment, Damien?<br />The Birth certificate issue is a red herring, and you are a distraction.<br />He needs to prove his eligibility.Greybeardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11919862790973521778noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7370534.post-36012695063313249502010-03-05T10:57:51.111-08:002010-03-05T10:57:51.111-08:00Ok Damien, I shouldnt have started what I cant fin...Ok Damien, I shouldnt have started what I cant finish. Sorry about that. I dont have the patience for this right now. You win.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07083141849691624128noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7370534.post-63136788963693015882010-03-05T10:15:27.432-08:002010-03-05T10:15:27.432-08:00by the way, if you guys still have doubts, here...by the way, if you guys still have doubts, here's more on the supposed Kenyan Birth certificate.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/feature/2009/08/03/birthers_kenya/" rel="nofollow">Birthers release forged Kenyan birth certificate for Obama</a><br /><br />Please stop harping on this guys. There are plenty of really good reasons to oppose Obama that are not based on what is most likely utter nonsense, and by harping on this come next election you send people the message that your opposition to Obama is based on nothing more than paranoid delusions. That will not help us defeat him come next election.Damienhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02691850040385670009noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7370534.post-62076356702444259912010-03-05T10:09:31.926-08:002010-03-05T10:09:31.926-08:00Sorry I made a mistake, that was World Net Daily s...Sorry I made a mistake, that was World Net Daily saying it was a forgery.Damienhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02691850040385670009noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7370534.post-21131703031307782862010-03-05T10:07:18.609-08:002010-03-05T10:07:18.609-08:00Mrchuck,
Also according to the Smoking Gun, That ...Mrchuck,<br /><br />Also according to the Smoking Gun, That document that purportedly shows that Obama was born in Kenya is a forgery.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=105764" rel="nofollow">Is this really smoking gun of Obama's Kenyan birth?</a><br /><br />So there's no good reason to doubt that Obama was born in Hawaii.Damienhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02691850040385670009noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7370534.post-3023205927493362282010-03-05T10:02:35.121-08:002010-03-05T10:02:35.121-08:00Mrchuck,
I was confused about this at one point, ...Mrchuck,<br /><br />I was confused about this at one point, as well but a birth certificate and a certificate of live birth are basically the same thing.<br /><br />Here's some more information from Answers.com<br /><br /><a href="http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Is_a_certification_of_live_birth_the_same_thing_as_a_birth_certificate_in_Hawaii" rel="nofollow">Is a certification of live birth the same thing as a birth certificate in Hawaii?</a><br /><br />If you read the article you will see that your claim is baseless.Damienhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02691850040385670009noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7370534.post-85574250559505222572010-03-05T09:54:06.048-08:002010-03-05T09:54:06.048-08:00Peedee,
We can say beyond a reasonable doubt that...Peedee,<br /><br />We can say beyond a reasonable doubt that Obama was born in the U.S at this point. Also, what about Hillery, if they was anything to this, don't you think she would have jumped on it? Seriously, you don't think she would have benefited, if people found out that Obama was not legally allowed to be our president? Next even Ann Coulter from what I hear considers this birth certificate stuff to be nonsense.Damienhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02691850040385670009noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7370534.post-35455093417692541662010-03-05T09:40:57.220-08:002010-03-05T09:40:57.220-08:00If we were standing face to face bd I can pretty m...If we were standing face to face bd I can pretty much guarantee you wouldnt call me a dolt. The internet makes you very brave little troll.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07083141849691624128noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7370534.post-40351727982742905562010-03-05T07:33:13.714-08:002010-03-05T07:33:13.714-08:00A certificate of "live birth, only means it i...A certificate of "live birth, only means it is "live", and NOT stillborn. That is all it means.<br />The true and legitimate birth certificate IS STILL MISSING!<br /><br />So, wonder why this document has not been forthcoming????? It is because there is not one anywhere in the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!!<br /><br />How about a KENYA birth certificate back in 1961??<br />It depends on if the tribal mid-wife can write, doncha know!!<br />Most births in the mud huts of Kenya are always witnessed by the birther's relatives, and they attest to this. <br />And this is EXACTLY what ALL of OBAMA'S relatives have said.<br /><br />No wonder the socialists like Soros do not want Obama's records to be seen!!mrchuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14178283210901458964noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7370534.post-3411298380188009042010-03-05T06:32:22.047-08:002010-03-05T06:32:22.047-08:00bd you incredible, ignorant soul.
That certificate...bd you incredible, ignorant soul.<br />That certificate means nothing. Whether or not he was born in Hawaii means nothing. The question is, is he a "natural born citizen"? Even if, as I, and many other believe, he was born in Hawaii, he may still have had dual-citizenship because of his father's status. If so, he is ineligible to be President of the United States. <br />(And you are aware "teh one" has claimed to have been born in both Honolulu hospitals, aren't you?)<br />Head out of where it is smelly and dark, bd.Greybeardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11919862790973521778noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7370534.post-15678344939728131872010-03-05T06:16:44.838-08:002010-03-05T06:16:44.838-08:00peedee you dolt, the certificate is online!
http:...peedee you dolt, the certificate is online!<br /><br />http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/.shared/image.html?/photos/uncategorized/2008/06/13/bobirthcertificate.jpgAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7370534.post-31034094522994880172010-03-05T04:05:53.015-08:002010-03-05T04:05:53.015-08:00Damien, I hear what your saying but if the man had...Damien, I hear what your saying but if the man had offered up proof that leaves no doubt this would be a non issue. The birth certificate is in doubt. The issue was swept under the rug constantly pre-election and once elected it was snuffed out completely. oops too late, we're stuck with him.<br />My kid is in the process of obtaining a top secret SBI clearance in the military. From what I've heard on the military chat sites BHO just might not pass that same clearance based on his family background as well as his ties to questionable foreigners. <br />And thats IF he had actually gotten IN the military after producing the appropriate acceptable proof. <br />It all seems so simple. Just produce proof that leaves no doubt.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07083141849691624128noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7370534.post-22839979936564310892010-03-04T21:42:54.563-08:002010-03-04T21:42:54.563-08:00Bloviating Zeppelin,
Its probably just wishful th...Bloviating Zeppelin,<br /><br />Its probably just wishful thinking on the part of the Kenyans. I doubt that they know about our constitutional restriction on people born outside the U.S becoming one of our presidents. Still I also see no convincing that Obama was born outside the U.S, in fact I see evidence to the contrary. So there really is no good reason for us to harp on this, until that changes. At this point, someone is going to have to prove the Obama's Hawaiian Certificate of Live Birth, (Same as a birth certificate) was forged, or they are going to have to find documentation that shows he was born outside the U.S that they can show beyond a reasonable doubt to be authentic. This is not something coming from someone who supported or even likes Obama. Its coming from someone who is being a critical thinker on the matter, and ignoring politics and just looking at the evidence.Damienhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02691850040385670009noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7370534.post-83645062943807392552010-03-04T21:22:23.085-08:002010-03-04T21:22:23.085-08:00lmao TF.lmao TF.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07083141849691624128noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7370534.post-11488142619946141032010-03-04T20:12:01.525-08:002010-03-04T20:12:01.525-08:00bd said...
Simple things please simple minds.
***...bd said... <br />Simple things please simple minds.<br />************<br /><b>If that's the case, you should be ecstatic...</b>TexasFredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06412925337032937983noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7370534.post-54155209160613701992010-03-04T19:30:16.315-08:002010-03-04T19:30:16.315-08:00Simple things please simple minds.Simple things please simple minds.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7370534.post-40014036960556308162010-03-04T17:39:30.051-08:002010-03-04T17:39:30.051-08:00I'm not a fan of these theories that he isn...I'm not a fan of these theories that he isn't a citizen. But I did see a pretty damning document in an email. The conclusion is: impeach his ass anyway!Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16134238646194230186noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7370534.post-35506207035006617762010-03-04T17:36:37.344-08:002010-03-04T17:36:37.344-08:00TF: our good friend already made on silly comment....TF: our good friend already made on silly comment. Wait; where IS it?<br /><br />BZBloviating Zeppelinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01359816456769157176noreply@blogger.com