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Bloviating Zeppelin: The Left: Where Tolerance, The Law & Grace Never Matter

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Saturday, November 15, 2008

The Left: Where Tolerance, The Law & Grace Never Matter

Those who claim to be the most tolerant are the least tolerant.

Those who claim not to hate are the most hateful.

The Left.

In Fornicalia, Proposition 8 passed (defining marriage as that between one man and one woman). Proposition 8 passed in roughly the same margin that Barack Hussein Obama obtained the presidency by vote: 52% to 48% (Prop 8 specifically: 52.2% Yes to 47.8% No). Black support for Prop 8 exceeded 2-to-1. Leftists can't understand what happened, except to exclaim that they were duped. Duped! But they have a plan.

In 2000, Fornicalia voters (myself included) passed Proposition 22 with 61% of the vote, which added a section to the California Family Code to formally define marriage in California as a union between a man and a woman.

Then, in 2004, San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom's decided to, unlawfully, authorize the issuance of marriage licenses to same-sex couples by the City and County of San Francisco. The 3,995 marriages were annulled by the California Supreme Court, but San Francisco began a legal challenge that was consolidated with other cases as In re Marriage Cases.

As a result of this the Fornicalia Supreme Court (on May 15, 2008 via a 4-to-3 vote) ruled that the statute enacted by Proposition 22 and other statutes that limit marriage to a relationship between a man and a woman violated the equal protection clause of the California Constitution. It also held that individuals of the same sex have the right to marry under the California Constitution.

Hence, the creation of Proposition 8 -- duplicating the same effort as Prop 22.

Now, the Left has decided that the "will of the people" isn't fair and, after all, it was "only" a 52-to-48 percentile margin and thusly what's lawful doesn't apply to them. Just as with the popular vote for Barack Hussein Obama, the people "spoke" -- only, this time, the Leftists don't like the speech.

Numerous protests have occurred but, more pointedly, another tactic has emerged whereupon the Left even more clearly announce their intolerance and hatred:

A man who works in Sacratomato, Fornicalia made, evidently, the very serious error of both donating money to the Yes On 8 campaign and being a member of an artistic clan. But of course, if you're in the Arts, a common gay stronghold, you'd best be prepared for discrimination if you don't place your toes precisely on the line.

From the LA Times:

Scott Eckern, the Sacramento theater director whose political donation in support of California's Prop. 8 ban on same-sex marriage has become a lightning rod in the debate over gay rights, resigned today. He said he wanted to protect the California Musical Theatre, his artistic home since 1984, from further controversy.

In truth, what happened was this: those opposed to Prop 8 went digging into so-called "public" records regarding donations and discovered that one individual wasn't toeing the Liberal Leftist line. Then they sought to excoriate and condemn his freedom.

Those persons who hold tolerance and understanding up as their Mantras thence decided:

Marc Shaiman, the Tony Award-winning composer (“Hairspray”), called Mr. Eckern last week and said that he would not let his work be performed in the theater. “I was uncomfortable with money made off my work being used to put discrimination in the Constitution,” Mr. Shaiman said. He added, however, that the entire episode left him “deeply troubled” because of the potential for backlash against gays who protested Mr. Eckern’s donation.

One comment included the obviously brain-addled:

Hypocrisy and Hate go hand-in-hand... Prop 8 supporters have one commonality: religion. While 70% of black voters unconscionably favored prop HATE = 8 it certainly wasn't because they were black, otherwise 100% would have. Distressed as I am that the percentage was both surprising and lopsided it's the affect of religion. Around the world, conflicts are virtually always religious-based. Bible Spice Palin was stumping with red meat speaches which have resulted in violence and possibly a recent killing in MA. These are not disconnected issues. Remember Mathew Shepherd?

So, according to the above comment, only betrayal-"niggers" voted for Proposition 8?

Another comment actually posited some consideration:

Regardless of one's stance on Proposition 8, it is terrible to see a man forced out of his job for his personal religious beliefs. Of course, if religious groups threatened a boycott over a gay employee of some company, and that company fired that individual, people would be screaming "discrimination." In a free society, people are allowed to disagree over lifestyle choices, behaviors and beliefs.

Having been to a few musicals, I find the community anything but tolerant, and often downright insulting, to views and ideologies (religious, right-wing) different than their own. The hypocrisy amazes me.

Of course, the really sad thing is that we don't see organizations and companies standing up for the personal choices of their employees and members - too many in society are not brave enough to stand up and encourage the "agree to disagree" attitude.

Besides, if you're holding groups responsible for the personal contributions of people involved with that group, then you're as "evil" and irrational and bigotted as those you claim to be fighting against.

This heralds a New Low for the Left: check the contributory rolls and then excoriate those with whom you disagree: those who are the most vulnerable in terms of their employment.

The gloves are completely off, Boys and Girls. This is a tactic you can expect in the future, particularly when Prop 8 goes back to the ballot: "expose" those who contribute, "out" them, then stand back for the business retribution.

How many of you, now, think that WE should even REMOTELY "play fair"?

Those who claim to be the most tolerant are the least tolerant.

Those who claim not to hate are the most hateful.

They are completely prepared to utilize harrassment, predisposition, overburdening numbers and actual violence to achieve their ends.

What are we prepared to do, to counter this?



Blogger Pasadena Closet Conservative said...

They're only tolerant when it fits their agenda. Otherwise, they're truly hateful bastards.

Fri Nov 14, 09:02:00 PM PST  
Blogger Average American said...

I guess I just will never understand it. The politics of those weirdos is just as disgusting and perverted as their lifestlyes. Are all of the leftards on the left coast actually queer, or do they not see that life choice as being as perverted as I do? I mean even the most left leaning of people I know find it disgusting.

Fri Nov 14, 09:54:00 PM PST  
Blogger shoprat said...

Let their hate fester and become visible.

In the Civil Rights movement for blacks it was the status quo that was hateful and violent, for the most part. In the "struggle for gay rights and dignity" it is those calling for change who are hateful and violent, not the status quo. That shows a major difference between the two causes.

Sat Nov 15, 07:26:00 AM PST  
Blogger Bushwack said...

I saw the list of businesses the FREAKS are passing out to boycott. They include several that gave money to BOTH sides.

Anyway I am seriously hoping for a counter protest plan by someone other than religious entities. I think religion has done it's part now its time for some fire with fire tactics, and I think the people of the cloth lack the anger/rage that needs to be unleashed.

After seeing the FREAKS beat up the old lady I am in a RAGE state. The good lord might need to save a FREAK if I happen to run across a protest today.

Sat Nov 15, 07:50:00 AM PST  
Blogger A Jacksonian said...

The Left wishes to throw away Westphalia... they don't want to learn about the past or even think that a 30 years war is possible due to their ideas on religion.

Thus we will repeat the mistake, again, on a global basis this time. Because they are progressing backwards at a horrific rate...

Sat Nov 15, 08:40:00 AM PST  
Blogger Bloviating Zeppelin said...

Progressing backwards is, unfortunately, a most appropriate statement, AJ.


Sat Nov 15, 02:52:00 PM PST  
Blogger Unknown said...

I went to the San Diego pro gay marriage protest rally thingy today with a fellow blogger. Got pics up and vid is on it's way.

Sat Nov 15, 03:37:00 PM PST  
Blogger Ranando said...

It doesn’t matter if I’m for or against Prop 8, it’s not important. The people of California have voted and that should be the end of it.

If it’s overturned it will be a sad day for America.

With that sad, I’m not threatened by Gays. I’m much more threatened by the Religious Right and the fanatics that think we should live by their moral values. Religious Right and Morals, what a crock of Shit.

There’s an old saying, “Those that scream the loudest are usually guilty of what they’re screaming about”.

Sat Nov 15, 04:32:00 PM PST  
Blogger Z said...

ranando, can you show where anyone who's against gays marrying are 'threatened'? that's like saying straight couples have said they need to defend their marriages..WHO has ever said that but Bill Clinton when the bill he signed the DEFENSE OF MARRIAGE act was put into law. NOWHERE else will you find anyone saying "we have to defend straight marriage!"

And, there are a lot of people who aren't religious but feel marriage should be left to straight couples.

Which 'moral values' would you choose not to live by since it would offend you to do anything the religious right promotes?

Sat Nov 15, 04:55:00 PM PST  
Blogger Ranando said...

Since you addresed me "Z" let me answer.

I don't want your Religious Cocksucking beliefs in my Government, my State, or my schools.

I pay taxes just like you.

Believe me, your beliefs threaten me more than Gays ever will.

Sat Nov 15, 05:12:00 PM PST  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Religious cocksucking?? Interesting choice of words there! The very laws of our land were built on RELIGIOUS MORALITY.You know this but apparently people just can't stomach the thought of being told their behavior is wrong.

Homosexuals CAN NOT change the definition of words. They think it's no big deal but it is. If you don't think so then let's change the definition of some other words and see how well that works out. Let's change the word Gay. Because Homosexuals are anything but happy.

I don't hate Homosexuals but right now they aren't doing a damn thing for themselves but making it VERY hard to everyone else to tolerate their ridiculous, obscene behavior.

Sat Nov 15, 06:22:00 PM PST  
Blogger Bushwack said...

I find it funny that the minute shit goes sideways the first thing that happens to MOST people is they get religion.

For example I bet there are a ton of folks in Cali that are screaming "Oh God why did this happen to me"

Very shortly after shit happens a lot turn to religion for solace.

I believe if Religion was taught in schools as a guide line, a sort of consequence for actions in life, things would be better.

I dont give a shit for for some overly religious people but I also cant stand those that will insult the WHOLE religion belief based on their feelings.. Truthfully I hope there is a hell for those people.

Sat Nov 15, 07:42:00 PM PST  
Blogger Bloviating Zeppelin said...

Echotig: thanks for taking a stance here!


Sat Nov 15, 08:44:00 PM PST  
Blogger The WordSmith from Nantucket said...

The people of California have voted and that should be the end of it.

You'd think...

Unbelievable how the intolerant screaming activists have been allowed to frame the debate as a "civil rights" issue.

Interesting, too, that they protest the Mormon Church, but aren't out there protesting black churches.

Sat Nov 15, 11:28:00 PM PST  
Blogger Ranando said...

I believe if Religion was taught in schools as a guide line, a sort of consequence for actions in life, things would be better.

That’s fine but once again I ask, which Religion?

Rev. Wright?

To me it’s really quite simple. If you want Religion taught in your school, send your kids to a church or private school.

Sun Nov 16, 09:52:00 AM PST  
Blogger Rivka said...

Would you be willing to help pay for my kids private school since I am paying for public via my taxes. In public my kids are being indoctrinated with the left's religion: Skewed history books where the real history of the past has been altered or taken out, and plenty of liberal social engineering.

I hate to break this to you but atheism, leftism -(humanism) and really any kind of thought either for or against God is a type of 'belief' system or 'religion'.

If you want to know 'what type' to put in our schools, let's try putting back the judeo-Christian values our country was founded on and the same standard of curriculum that was once in our schools. Children had to learn latin, and had to know Greek in order to study their bibles. They had to memorize bible verses. A 10 year old was smarter than most high school students are today and character was important.

If you compare the schools back then to the way they are now it is astounding how horrible they have become.

Mon Nov 17, 11:46:00 AM PST  
Blogger Ranando said...


If you're willing to send your kids to a school that you don't approve of, than your problems go way beyound Religion in Public Schools.

I can't even imagine.

Mon Nov 17, 03:21:00 PM PST  
Blogger Bd said...

Man you guys are full of shit!

Mon Nov 17, 04:27:00 PM PST  
Blogger Rivka said...


I think you missed the point I was making. What they teach in public is a leftist humanistic religion. Yet you claim it is 'religion free' right now. The point I was making was that you expect us to fund that 'belief system' which is one you don't have a problem with.

You say you are against any kind of 'religion' taught in schools, but there is a religion being taught every day there led by humanists. By the way you can't use the argument of 'muslim', jewish, hindu etc.. It should be judeo Christian because that is what it used to be and what this country was founded on- our constitution and our laws.

Seperation of Church and State has been totally misinterpreted by the left and filtered into our society as truth for a long time now. It is another accepted lie.

Tue Nov 18, 06:25:00 AM PST  
Blogger Ranando said...

Here are Jefferson's own words on the subject.

Separation of Church and State
"Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely
between man and his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith
or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions
only, and not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of
the whole American people which declared that their legislature should
'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the
free exercise thereof,' thus building a wall of separation between Church
and State."

--Letter to the Danbury (Conn.) Baptist Association, January 1, 1802

Tue Nov 18, 07:43:00 AM PST  

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