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Bloviating Zeppelin

(in-ep-toc'-ra-cy) - a system of government where the least capable to lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a diminishing number of producers.

Tuesday, January 06, 2009

What Are The Alternatives?

I've noted that, in the DEM/MSM (my acronym for the Defeatist, Elitist Media), there is much ado about Israel's response to Hamas rocket and mortar attacks sourcing from the Gaza Strip (click on photo for expanded and detailed view).

Many media outlets are typifying Israel's response as "horrific," "disproportionate" -- some go so far as to suggest it's tantamount to "mass murder" and of children as well.

Israelis themselves are questioning the response.

Haaretz columnist, Akiva Eldar writes, in his column entitled "The way out of Gaza:"
The tremendous population density in the Gaza Strip does not allow a "surgical operation" over an extended period that would minimize damage to civilian populations. The difficult images from the Strip will soon replace those of the damage inflicted by Qassam rockets in the western Negev. The scale of losses, which works in 'favor' of the Palestinians, will return Israel to the role of Goliath."

Further, he writes:

The uncensored images broadcast by Al Jazeera to hundreds of millions of homes in the Arab world do not work to the benefit of Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak, who was photographed several days ago speaking with Livni. A single Qana-like incident would be enough to make the masses of refugees congregate at the Rafah crossing and sabotage the unwritten agreement between Israel and Egypt against Hamas.

Last Sunday, December 28th, hundreds of persons fleeing Gaza broached the border with Egypt. What most didn't hear or don't know is that Egypt reacted by sending hundreds of Egyptian troops to the border, who fired into the masses, wounding many. Disproportionate? Understanding of their fellow Arab and Palestinian brothers and sisters?

As I wrote before (Wednesday, 12-31-08), the Arab world could end this in 24 hours by providing land for the "Palestinians." But the topic is not even raised. By anyone. Arab brothers are not interested in helping their fellow brothers.

Clearly the bulk of the media and portions of the world object to Israel's military response, that much is obvious.

On the other hand, Sammy Benoit (our famous Yid With Lid: please check my Suspects sidebar!) writes in his article "Questions About Proportionality": how many rockets would make it okay?

How many Jews had to die to make Israel's response proportionate - five, ten, 100? Should the United Nations develop a system that gives a value to each life and determines when they could be protected? How many Israelis equals the self-defense "tipping point"? How many English? Since they never have the guts to fight, would the French be more or less?

So I ask again: How many rockets make it okay to protect your citizens? Was America's response to the How many bombs can land in Britain before the British can respond?bombing of Pearl Harbor "disproportionate"? What about England's response to the bombing of London during World War II? The Nazis were trying to destroy England in the same way Hamas is trying to destroy Israel.

My question to the Media and the World is then: what should Israel's response have been?

Oddly enough, I hear many complaints but no, repeat, no suggestions.



Blogger shoprat said...

I guess the only solution these people will accept is for every Jew on the planet to report to the nearest termination center to be put out of the world's misery.

I am with the Jews on refusing to do so.

Tue Jan 06, 06:48:00 AM PST  
Blogger Bloviating Zeppelin said...

My point precisely. So the proper response is NO response? Just let the rockets fall where they may -- ho-hum, no problem, just another day in Israel?


Tue Jan 06, 07:28:00 AM PST  
Anonymous WMD_Maker said...

The proper response, after all this time that they Israelis have invested in trying to live with the Palestinians, is to bull doze the entire strip flat, remove all of the rubble and leave the palestinians NOTHING but sand to rebuild with.

Tue Jan 06, 08:16:00 AM PST  
Blogger Miss T.C. Shore said...

I made the point on my blog, but I'll make it again here: those criticizing Israel, by and large, are either anti-Israel or the liberal "anti-war" crowd. There is no response the anti-Israel crowd would accept. The liberal anti-war crowd does not understand that a "proportionate" response PROLONGS war, by providing no incentive to stop aggression. A disproportionate response, and overwhelming response, is the only way to shorten or end the conflict. Israel is responding in the only logical manner. If anything, I'd suggest that Israel step up their war on Hamas and kill everyone in that terrorist organization. Only then, will they save the lives that Hamas plans to destroy.

Tue Jan 06, 08:22:00 AM PST  
Blogger Bloviating Zeppelin said...

WMD: oh, yes.

TCS: again, thanks for visiting and listing me in the "follower" section and, yes, I completely concur. I can only conclude anti-Semitism is alive and well.


Tue Jan 06, 08:37:00 AM PST  
Blogger A Jacksonian said...

Well no one wants to take my suggestion of: blockade Gaza off from all outside help save AK ammo. No food, water, medical aid... just lots of AK ammo.

Anyone wanting to leave must sign off on having no claim to Israel for theselves and their children. Photos, fingerprints, bood samples. They also know that if they show up at any rally for 'liberating palestine' that will be considered an abrogation of their release and can be shot on sight, no questions asked. Send these 'refugees' to the West Bank.

Let Gaza self-clear.

Anyone wanting to go back can, Gaza administered by Israel until full, free and fair elections are held. When that is done, Fatah is informed that any rocket attack, mortar attack or suicide bomber traced to Gaza will be considered an act of war by Palestine, and Israel will wage total war on all Palestinians.

Harsh? Compared to the last 60 years? Nope... not in my book. Palestinians haven't figured out how to organize themselves for anything except grievances, while Israel has formed a tehnologically advanced state that is prosperous. It is time for Palestinians to get their act together, or have their dream of a Nation die for good and all.

You won't get that from the Left or the Right as they want to be 'nice' against barbarians. I have two nice end-states for barbarians: civilized, or dead. Their choice by their actions. If you are civilized *prove it* by acting that way. War is not on a dial of 'proportionality', you either fight with all you have and hope its enough, or you lose.

Tue Jan 06, 09:14:00 AM PST  
Blogger TexasFred said...

It would appear that the Palestinians, as a whole, are the scourge of the earth...

Imagine that!!

How scummy have you got to be for your fellow sheet-heads to deny you??

Tue Jan 06, 11:33:00 AM PST  
Blogger Ang said...

I enjoy coming to your blog and seeing what is posted (on all topics). I'm glad that Israel is standing her ground. On a personal note I hate to admit I have concern attending a Community Solidarity Rally tomorrow evening. I wonder if we'll be met with protestors in front of the synagogue I attend. We as most synagogues have security always on sight (even during worship). My hope is it's peaceful. Hope this was okay to comment here.

Tue Jan 06, 11:39:00 AM PST  
Blogger Bloviating Zeppelin said...

AJ: I swoon to think of the harshness of your declaration. You're clearly not a diplomat. Unfortunately you fail to realize that continued talks during a rain of rockets is all that's needed to reach an equitable solution. And that Israel is surrounded by ALL sides by sworn enemies -- that should have NO bearing on her ability to defend herself. No, AJ, there you go, trying to meet violence with violence and you fully well realize that violence has never resulted in ANY kind of solution.

Hmm. Except WWI. And WWII. And the Civil War. And the American revolution. And on. And on.

TF: yes, those loving, tolerant, understanding, convergent Arab cultures, further linked by a common religion. Taking loving care of one another. . .

Ang: 1. Have security. 2. Yes, you'll have at least ONE protester. Let us know.


Tue Jan 06, 11:56:00 AM PST  
Blogger A Jacksonian said...

Yup, Mr. Z, two world wars proved that for sure... hey, wait a sec... nope, meeting violence with same works just fine, tyvm.

Diplomats are for losing the peace, soldiers are for keeping it.

Tue Jan 06, 05:46:00 PM PST  
Blogger Alaska Steve said...

Great coverage on the conflict and you continue to have the best and brightest readership commenting. What I really want to say though is - great photo choice! I was stationed at Fort Knox for two years and I love armor almost as much as planes . . .

Tue Jan 06, 11:03:00 PM PST  
Blogger Bloviating Zeppelin said...

AS: thank you very much for the compliment! And if you like armor, then you'll really enjoy this website about the M1.


Wed Jan 07, 07:35:00 AM PST  

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