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Bloviating Zeppelin: Sen Lindsey Graham SKEWERS A.G. Eric Holder

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Monday, November 23, 2009

Sen Lindsey Graham SKEWERS A.G. Eric Holder

(Hat-tip to Maggie's Notebook.)

Senator Lindsey Graham completely skewers Attorney General Eric Holder in this open session -- with regard to trying 9/11 terrorists in a civilian New York court -- and lances him with Logic. Leftists hate facts and history, and Graham takes the fact knife and deploys it sharply. To wit:



Blogger Bloviating Zeppelin said...

Let me make a brief statement about Miranda here, as the cartoon reminds me of it. Miranda and its admonishment, in a civilian setting, is a three-pronged application; it must occur when there is:

1. Custodial
2. Interrogation
3. By a peace officer

In the case of the military, the broader view of "peace officer" actually means an "agent of the state." Security officers at, say, Target, detaining a person for shoplifting have no mandate to Mirandize as they are agents of the store and are not peace officers.

There is no mandate to Mirandize over the phone because there is no "custody" per se; you can hang up at any time.

If a peace officer arrives at a traffic collision and says "What happened here?" there is no mandate for Miranda because there is no interrogation; the question is broad, general, and you are not the focus as a "suspect."

As far as I know about the facts of the KSM case, at no time was any form of Miranda applied. In any other civilian court these are, in a crime of this or a similar level, huge grounds for disimssal.

Here's the conundrum: either the KSM case gets vacated on its face, or the court is about to change the application of Miranda. I see no other way to interpret.


Mon Nov 23, 09:16:00 AM PST  
Blogger TexasFred said...

Lindsey Graham is a sham, he got lucky and came off looking like an American Conservative...

Not to worry, next week he'll be a RINO again...

Mon Nov 23, 10:33:00 AM PST  
Blogger Jenn of the Jungle said...

That was an EPIC bitch slap. EPIC. Holder came off as completely inept.

Don't be such a hater Fred, RINO he may be but that was great.

Mon Nov 23, 10:53:00 AM PST  
Blogger Bloviating Zeppelin said...

TF: Graham is what he is, but I can still hear the slapped cheek from Washington all the way to Fornicalia, and that was grand.

Jenn: Now, if only Conservatives would use REASONING and LOGIC MISSILES like that to home in on other issues at hand.


Mon Nov 23, 11:30:00 AM PST  
Blogger TexasFred said...

Yeah, he bitch slapped him, then he gave him a blow job to make up for it...

One little stand does NOT a hero make...

Mon Nov 23, 12:52:00 PM PST  
Blogger Bloviating Zeppelin said...

TF: yeah, but it was still fun to watch Holder squirm; that was the point for me.


Mon Nov 23, 02:00:00 PM PST  
Blogger shoprat said...

That "honorable" attorney stutters more than Obama without his teleprompter. He's not used to being challenged.

Mon Nov 23, 02:40:00 PM PST  
Blogger Bushwack said...

Well I'll give him kudos for the verbal gut pile he left on the ground after that....Mr Graham lost a lot of respect from me recently but this particular line of questioning went a long way to regaining some of it.
I wish we could find someone that would do EVERYTHING I agreed with all the time, but unfortunately I think that's a pipe dream...Well until I decide to run for POTUS in which case hell would have surely frozen over.

Tue Nov 24, 02:06:00 AM PST  
Blogger Bloviating Zeppelin said...

But it was fun to watch because no one, NO ONE takes ANYONE from the Obama Administration to task for ANYthing!


Tue Nov 24, 08:47:00 AM PST  
Blogger David Wyatt said...

Yes, BZ it was fun to watch! Thanx for posting it.

Tue Nov 24, 08:18:00 PM PST  

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