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Bloviating Zeppelin: Holder: "Lying has to do with your state of mind."

Bloviating Zeppelin

(in-ep-toc'-ra-cy) - a system of government where the least capable to lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a diminishing number of producers.

Friday, December 09, 2011

Holder: "Lying has to do with your state of mind."

Meaning, I suppose, that if you believe you really didn't intend to lie, then it's not truly a lie. I guess it gets down to what the meaning of is, is -- ?

From The Weekly Standard:

This morning on Capitol Hill, Attorney General Eric Holder was asked whether he lied to Congress about the Fast & Furious gun-running scandal:

Rep. James Sensenbrenner asked Holder: “Tell me what's the difference between lying and misleading Congress, in this context?”

Holder's response is a bit Clintonian. “Well, if you want to have this legal conversation, it all has to do with your state of mind and whether or not you had the requisite intent to come up with something that would be considered perjury or a lie," Holder said. "The information that was provided by the February 4th letter was gleaned by the people who drafted the letter after they interacted with people who they thought were in the best position to have the information.”

Also, from The Washington Examiner:

Attorney General Eric Holder denied that anybody at the Department of Justice lied about the Fast and Furious program that allowed guns to fall into the hands of Mexican drug lords, even though he admitted that the DOJ sent inaccurate information to Congress.

Last week, the DOJ took the rare step of formally withdrawing a letter it sent to Congress in February that falsely claimed the program being executed by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives did not allow guns to "walk" into Mexico.

Lying to Congress is a federal felony, Mr Holder.

This stinks, Mr Holder. It stinks and Mr Obama's conspicuous silence in the entire affair bespeaks volumes. It's absolutely nothing about checking the melanin at the door.


Apologies all around with regard to lack of posting. The internet at my house is down, at least until I can possibly upgrade with potential DSL. Yes, yes, whilst the rest of you are actually in the 21st century, I'm mostly back with tin cans, piano wire and chewing gum.


Anonymous Anonymous said...

Holder is obviously setting himself up for an insanity plea...

Thu Dec 08, 10:59:00 PM PST  
Blogger Mizz Anonymous said...

Impertinent, thank you, please keep on saying it like it is... loud and proud, you are getting to them.
If the left thinks that we are going put up with him, and just stand aside and shut up and let the Barack Obama regime just walk all over is and our constitution,, they have another thought coming. All this Jackass-In-Chief knows how to do is to make speeches and campaign, he don’t know a thing about leadership or how to be an American. These Dems, Czars and this Administration think that this is Europe, not America.

Fri Dec 09, 04:40:00 AM PST  
Blogger ∞ ≠ ø said...

O.K. Mr. Holder, who drafted this letter and who did they 'glean' their information from?

Subpoenas for them and all their friend. Singular, because now is the rare and beautiful example where shit rolls uphill.

They're effing stupid if they let go of this one.

Fri Dec 09, 06:42:00 AM PST  
Blogger Well Seasoned Fool said...

Old adage, a liar's punishment is no one believes him when he is telling the truth.

Say you spend the bulk of your adult life being a spin doctor, enabling spin doctors, and/or utilizing spin doctors, do you loose the ability to even recognize the truth?

Fri Dec 09, 07:14:00 AM PST  
Blogger mrchuck said...

Eric Holder has been a "career" step and fetch it Federal employee for over 20 years.
He lies to fit whatever needs his input.

Obunghole will not fire him for many reasons.
If Obunghole had his way, ALL Federal employees would be of the Negroid race of human beings.

Remember, once Obungler is voted out of office, ALL of his lackeys will also be gone.
No more Czars, etc.

Fri Dec 09, 08:14:00 AM PST  
Blogger Old NFO said...

If this were John Q. Public, they'd be UNDER the damn jail...

Fri Dec 09, 04:33:00 PM PST  
Blogger Bloviating Zeppelin said...

TF: one might think so. . .

MA: first, thanks for stopping by and for taking the time to comment. And whilst Europe starts to come around a bit, the US decides its past time to emulate Europe. Nice Fawkes avatar, also.

∞ ≠ ø: let the rolling commence!

WSF, the answer is: possibly not even.

MrC: not just regular lies, but those of the Bald Faced variety.


Fri Dec 09, 04:37:00 PM PST  
Blogger Bloviating Zeppelin said...

NFO: and THAT is the ever-loving truth!


Fri Dec 09, 04:49:00 PM PST  
Blogger Z said...

TexasFred's comment made me laugh out loud! Good one.
And, you know? It's probably true :-)

If Holder compares this one more time to the Bush agents when they actually never left the guns but surveilled the whole scenes, which, of course, was the WHOLE POINT, I'll bop him through the TV screen!

Fri Dec 09, 06:12:00 PM PST  
Blogger Average American said...

But but but, no one in Justice lied, they just all mis-spoke.

I can hardly wait until Jan 20, 2013. Watching the heads roll from that crooked administration will look a lot like pumpkins rolling down a steep hill the morning after halloween! I just hope they all hit the big rock wall at the bottom!

Sun Dec 11, 12:33:00 PM PST  

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