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Bloviating Zeppelin: It Works

Bloviating Zeppelin

(in-ep-toc'-ra-cy) - a system of government where the least capable to lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a diminishing number of producers.

Tuesday, April 17, 2007

It Works

1. Fact: The murder rates in many nations (such as England) were ALREADY LOW BEFORE enacting gun control. Thus, their restrictive laws cannot be credited with lowering their crime rates.1

2. Fact: Gun control has done nothing to keep crime rates from rising in many of the nations that have imposed severe firearms restrictions.

* Australia: Readers of the USA Today newspaper discovered in 2002 that, "Since Australia's 1996 laws banning most guns and making it a crime to use a gun defensively, armed robberies rose by 51%, unarmed robberies by 37%, assaults by 24% and kidnappings by 43%. While murders fell by 3%, manslaughter rose by 16%."2

* Canada: After enacting stringent gun control laws in 1991 and 1995, Canada has not made its citizens any safer. "The contrast between the criminal violence rates in the United States and in Canada is dramatic," says Canadian criminologist Gary Mauser in 2003. "Over the past decade, the rate of violent crime in Canada has increased while in the United States the violent crime rate has plummeted." 3

* England: According to the BBC News, handgun crime in the United Kingdom rose by 40% in the two years after it passed its draconian gun ban in 1997.4

* Japan: One newspaper headline says it all: Police say "Crime rising in Japan, while arrests at record low."5

3. Fact: British citizens are now more likely to become a victim of crime than are people in the United States:

* In 1998, a study conducted jointly by statisticians from the U.S. Department of Justice and the University of Cambridge in England found that most crime is now worse in England than in the United States.

* "You are more likely to be mugged in England than in the United States," stated the Reuters news agency in summarizing the study. "The rate of robbery is now 1.4 times higher in England and Wales than in the United States, and the British burglary rate is nearly double America's."6 The murder rate in the United States is reportedly higher than in England, but according to the DOJ study, "the difference between the [murder rates in the] two countries has narrowed over the past 16 years."7

* The United Nations confirmed these results in 2000 when it reported that the crime rate in England is higher than the crime rates of 16 other industrialized nations, including the United States.8

4. Fact: British authorities routinely underreport crime statistics. Comparing statistics between different nations can be quite difficult since foreign officials frequently use different standards in compiling crime statistics.

* The British media has remained quite critical of authorities there for "fiddling" with crime data. Consider some of the headlines in their papers: "Crime figures a sham, say police,"9 "Police are accused of fiddling crime data,"10 and "Police figures under-record offences by 20 percent."11

* British police have also criticized the system because of the "widespread manipulation" of crime data:

a. "Officers said that pressure to convince the public that police were winning the fight against crime had resulted in a long list of ruses to 'massage' statistics."12

b. Sgt. Mike Bennett says officers have become increasingly frustrated with the practice of manipulating statistics. "The crime figures are meaningless," he said. "Police everywhere know exactly what is going on."13

c. According to The Electronic Telegraph, "Officers said the recorded level of crime bore no resemblance to the actual amount of crime being committed."14

* Underreporting crime data: "One former Scotland Yard officer told The Telegraph of a series of tricks that rendered crime figures 'a complete sham.' A classic example, he said, was where a series of homes in a block flats were burgled and were regularly recorded as one crime. Another involved pickpocketing, which was not recorded as a crime unless the victim had actually seen the item being stolen."15

* Underreporting murder data: British crime reporting tactics keep murder rates artificially low. "Suppose that three men kill a woman during an argument outside a bar. They are arrested for murder, but because of problems with identification (the main witness is dead), charges are eventually dropped. In American crime statistics, the event counts as a three-person homicide, but in British statistics it counts as nothing at all. 'With such differences in reporting criteria, comparisons of U.S. homicide rates with British homicide rates is a sham,' [a 2000 report from the Inspectorate of Constabulary] concludes."16
Let's all watch the pundits chime in . . .


Blogger Threat Assessment & Response Canada said...

Hey. Thank you for posting this. You taught me something today.

Tue Apr 17, 05:32:00 AM PDT  
Blogger Gayle said...

Excellent, BZ! The libs are already hollering for more gun control because of what happened yesterday. We need to fight back tooth and nail or they'll disarm every one of us!

I thought the sentence "let's all watch the pundits join in." was a link, because it's in red. If it is, it doesn't work.

Tue Apr 17, 09:11:00 AM PDT  
Blogger TexasFred said...

Well BZ, you know the old adage, 'When guns are outlawed...'

I've been accused of being everything else, might as well call me an outlaw too...


Tue Apr 17, 09:46:00 AM PDT  
Blogger Bloviating Zeppelin said...

TARC: good!

Gayle: more gun control! More gun control! No guns! No guns!

TF: guess I must be an outlaw. I have MY fair share. . . :^)


Tue Apr 17, 10:34:00 AM PDT  
Blogger Unknown said...

Geez must I repeat it? Guns don't kill people, PEOPLE kill people.

Tue Apr 17, 11:05:00 AM PDT  
Blogger Bloviating Zeppelin said...

Jenn: wait wait wait. On its face, that's simply too obvious for the average Left Thinker. Can't you throw in some multi-syllabic buzz words and phrases?


Tue Apr 17, 01:21:00 PM PDT  
Blogger BB-Idaho said...

With the resulting buzz about guns & gun control, we should note that
national murder rates around the world appear to bear no relation: ..for example, the US is
24th in per capita murder rate and there seems no correlation between
economy or location-probably more a cultural thing. As you note, libs will want more gun control. I would add that NRA types will
want to arm any and all. I submit
neither will preclude the rare
psychotic popping up and doing mayhem.

Tue Apr 17, 01:25:00 PM PDT  
Blogger Nightcrawler said...

When my wife and I were in the gun store today, she started to blame the guns for the terrible tragedy at VT. She said, "Just think, because of one of these, 32 people are dead." I simply said, "One more of these and they could have been spared."

Tue Apr 17, 01:57:00 PM PDT  
Blogger Bloviating Zeppelin said...

Nightcrawler: yes -- and spared the victims of Charles Whitman, Luby's, Columbine, etc etc etc.

ONE well placed round in the brain pan.


Tue Apr 17, 02:45:00 PM PDT  
Blogger ABFreedom said...

I can vouch for that Canadian statistic. The only people that end up with guns are the criminals, and the loose nuts. In home invasions, the citizens are no longer allowed to protect themselves, and the bad guys know it. Same with many other types of crimes. The regular citizen becomes a tool and means for criminal gain since they have no way to defend themselves against a bullet. Much like all these students.

Tue Apr 17, 05:29:00 PM PDT  
Blogger shoprat said...

The left knows that gun control doesn't work, but that's no reason not to pass it and out law guns. They have other reasons besides crime to want the guns out of the hands of the people. An armed people is a free people and the left can't have that.

Tue Apr 17, 06:10:00 PM PDT  
Blogger The WordSmith from Nantucket said...


Can you direct me to a link for information on how Brits are under-reporting their crime and manipulating stats? I have been entrenched in some bit of debating.

Wed Apr 18, 01:28:00 AM PDT  
Blogger Gunny John said...

The real definition of gun control: hitting what you aim at.

One student or professor that was armed could have brought this thing to a halt. What a load of crap.

Wed Apr 18, 04:36:00 AM PDT  
Blogger Bloviating Zeppelin said...

Wordsmith: it's very early Wednesday morning. Let me go see if I can relocate that link. I normally include links but for some reason didn't include that one.


Wed Apr 18, 04:51:00 AM PDT  
Blogger The WordSmith from Nantucket said...

Thanks, Zeppelin! I'm embroiled in a gun control laws debate on a message board, and one Brit cited about homicide stats from a gun control site.

I hope the link is from a non-NRA site; not that their facts aren't useful and good. It's just that the gun control zealots are less likely to be quick to dismiss it as propaganda.

Wed Apr 18, 02:30:00 PM PDT  
Blogger Dionne said...

I'm going to do a comprehensive post on gun-control and I will use this as a resource. I especially loooooove the pic. Great post!

Thu Apr 19, 09:34:00 PM PDT  
Blogger Bloviating Zeppelin said...

Wordsmith: you found it!

LMC: you go, girl!


Fri Apr 20, 09:46:00 PM PDT  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The sad thing is most people who are for gun control are for it because someone they know died as a result of a gun and they think they could have prevented it if no one had any guns. And they might even be right. But it is physically impossible to "put the genie back in the bottle" so to speak. You could even say the death might have been stopped if someone else had a gun to shoot the person who shot their loved one first. Of course that doesn't address shots that either penetrate their target completely or that miss, ricochet, etc. Some of that can be addressed by using the right round for the occasion (frangible and such). What most of these people really want is to stop gangbangers and idiots from having guns. Who doesn't want that? But they will just get them from other sources, as prohibition of anything hasn't worked in this country (drugs, alcohol, etc). There's a reason why that never works, and these people just don't get it.

Thu Jan 15, 02:09:00 PM PST  

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