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Bloviating Zeppelin: Hamas, Iran: More Dead Israelis Required

Bloviating Zeppelin

(in-ep-toc'-ra-cy) - a system of government where the least capable to lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a diminishing number of producers.

Tuesday, January 20, 2009

Hamas, Iran: More Dead Israelis Required

Iran is sorry that more Israelis didn't die at the hands of Hamas in Gaza:

Iran has renewed efforts to supply advanced weaponry to Hamas and the IDF is concerned that the terror group will try to smuggle long-range Fajr missiles into the Gaza Strip.

According to the latest intelligence assessments, Iran, which was responsible for writing Hamas's military doctrine, has already launched an internal probe to determine how the plan it had created for Hamas failed to cause more IDF casualties.

Further, Hamas is torturing those Fatah members who may have collaborated with Israel:

Hamas militiamen have rounded up hundreds of Fatah activists on suspicion of "collaboration" with Israel during Operation Cast Lead, Fatah members in the Gaza Strip told The Jerusalem Post on Monday.

They said the Hamas crackdown on Fatah intensified after the cease-fire went into effect early Sunday morning.

The Fatah members and eyewitnesses said the detainees were being held in school buildings and hospitals that Hamas had turned into make-shift interrogation centers.

Fatah, if you recall, is another force on the Palestinian Legislative Council along with Hamas (who has the current majority). Fatah was founded by Yassar Arafat in 1957, and Mahmoud Abbas, President of the Palestinian Authority, is the leader of Fatah.

Still and all: "Me against my brother, me and my brother against my cousins; me, my brother and my cousins against our nonrelatives; me, my brother, my cousins and friends against our enemies in the village; all of these and the whole village against the next village."

Bushwack at American & Proud featured a recent post wherein he made a very salient note with regard to Saudi Arabia, now that Gaza has been torn due to the actions of Hamas. He noted that King Abdullah of SA has pledged to donate $1 billion dollars to rebuild the Gaza Strip.

I make two notations, and then an extended comment:

Why did the Gaza Strip have to become decimated before Saudi Arabia stepped up to the plate and, second, why haven't any of the Middle Eastern countries come to the aid of the so-called Palestinians, as I've asked before, and donated land for them to settle away from Israel?

And as I wrote at American & Proud:

Israel HAS quit too soon, that much is clear.

There are days when I feel like bloviating on and on about the history of Israel, the stance of Islam, the nature of the Middle East, divergent philosophies and cultures, and attempt throughout that to toss in at least something of a measure of “understanding,” if you will.

I subscribe to UK’s The Economist magazine and, after reading their January 10th - 16th issue, the article under the LEADERS section, looking at their views (yes, Hamas made mistakes but Israel made at least as many, why can’t we just stop these “foul events”), I became even more galvanized in my thoughts.

And as they so rightly point out, even themselves: “But if you take seriously what Hamas says in its charter, Hamas itself does believe this (the complete elimination of Israel). So does Hizbullah, Lebanon’s ‘Party of God’; and so does a rising and soon perhaps nuclear armed Iran.”

But LEADER concludes that “Israel must show not only that is is too strong to be swept away but also that it is willing to give up the land — the West Bank, not just Gaza — where the promised Palestinian state must stand.”

To this I completely disagree. Look at any map of Israel. To completely abandon Gaza and the West Bank places Israel directly in the middle — AGAIN — of hostile forces and enforces the decision that the only conclusion shall be to eliminate the Middle Man: Israel.

The west simply does not comprehend the Islamist and, more specifically, the Middle Eastern mindset. There is no gray area to be acquired. It is either kill all the Jews, eliminate Israel or nothing. And Islamists will take every step and all the time necessary to acquire that one specific goal. Anything LESS is simply unacceptable.

What is unacceptable is to have ANY Hamas or Hezbollah presence in the West Bank, Gaza or Golan Heights. There can be NO presence anywhere west of the 1994 treaty line.

And to accomplish that, there must be a continued press into all three of these areas, simultaneously, to root out and kill Hamas, Hezbollah and any other terrorist organization — who will STILL continue to hide behind the skirts of women and the bibs of infants.

If that is how they wish to play the game, then civilian casualties simply factor into the equation.

So be it.



Anonymous Anonymous said...

It is disgusting that the Pali's begin all the problems yet the world hates Israel so much it stands by the side encouraging the terrorists, the thugs, the devils of evil doers. It is sickening.

As for pandering, you are right on, I am not wasting my time nor injuring my wrist further to write on the anti-Christ.

He is a freaking thug!

Tue Jan 20, 02:30:00 AM PST  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Are you still defending the state terrorism of Israel?!!
Israel kills Palestinians in their homes, in the fields and in mosques. It kills whole families as well as children with their mothers. Arab countries can - if they want - withdraw the Arab Peace Initiative. But they lost the will; therefore, the Israeli war machine keeps on killing Palestinians.
The Israeli government, gathering the remaining Nazis around the world, is trying to squeeze the last useful drop from the Bush Administration before it departs. Once again, if Arab countries want, they can pressure the US Administration in many available ways. However, they do not. The reason is that they have lost that same will.
The Palestinians are responsible, before Arabs, for this tragic situation in Gaza Strip. The division weakened them further; the policy of Hamas killed more than 500 Palestinians in nine ominous days.
Yet I started with our responsibility, so people would not say I am denying it. In the ongoing crime, Israel appears as a Nazi, military, expansionist nation that has no right to exist in the Middle East.
Tzipi Livni and Ehud Barak are terrorists. She is a terrorist born to two terrorist members of the Argon gang, which imported terrorism to Palestine and the Middle East. She worked in the Mossad to complete her family's terrorism heritage. Now she is saying that all Israel wants is for Hamas to stop firing rockets. This is also the excuse of Barak, who practiced terrorism as a soldier and is still practicing it as a minister. Both of them say that war on Gaza has nothing to do with next month's elections. This means that it definitely has something to do with it.
Then you have the biggest liar in Israel or any other place: "President" Shimon Peres; I heard him say that Israel had the most powerful weapon in the world…Justice.
Israel is a Nazi state that has no right to exist. The Christian West sought to establish it as a means to repent of its crime at our expense. There was never a Smaller or Greater Israel. The history of the Torah is fiction and not history. The same goes for Peres justice.
George Bush, who promised a Palestinian State by the end of 2008 and lied or failed, is a full accessory in Israel's murder. His administration killed a million Muslims in eight years; therefore, it is not hard for him to support the killing of 500 - or even 1000 - Palestinians. He accuses Hamas of terrorism. Yet, with his help, Israel is the terrorist nation. He also said that Hamas did not want the interest of Palestinians. Who wants it then? He or his VP Dick Cheney?
On a rare occasion, I heard Cheney say the truth. He proclaimed that Israel did not ask for permission from the US Administration to attack Gaza. Why would it ask for permission when the whole administration is under its control and shares its war on Arabs and Muslims? But Cheney, leader of the war gang, cannot stay honest for long: he went on to say that Israel, a UN member state, was attacked by a terrorist organization. The opposite is true. Israel is a terrorist nation that has no right to join any international organization, while Hamas is a national liberation movement. What is also true is that Cheney is a wanted war criminal.
I would like to add Gordon Brown and Nicolas Sarkozy. They both support a cease-fire, but the British PM eventually supports the US administration. As to the French President, he says one thing and does another. On the eve of the attack on Gaza, Israel was offered EU membership, one which is better than that of the original six countries that started the EEC in Rome. Israel was given all privileges without any financial or any other responsibility towards the EU. Even though the Czech Republic was deliberately held responsible, France was the country that spearheaded the campaign. Sarkozy hands it the EU Presidency then comes to us for mediation.
After this tour of Israeli terrorism, with US-EU connivance, I go back to the Palestinian and Arab responsibility. We are so weak that we cannot win a military confrontation, not even a media confrontation. Israel has been killing, occupying and destroying for four decades, yet it managed to focus on Hamas rockets, blacking out the Nazi occupation, Hamas' raison d'être. What does Israel expect after a long occupation? To be welcomed by Palestinians with roses and wedding rice?
Many Israelis, including Livni, evoke the Transfer (Palestinian displacement). In return, we demand a transfer that would send the Israelis back to the countries they came from. Only original Arab Jews, who were in the lands before the establishment of Israel, would remain.
What I am trying to say is that extremism breeds extremism. If we see a Palestinian extremism and refusal, it is because the other party's extremism has undermined the moderates among Palestinians, Arabs and others. It made a peace seeker like me call for the withdrawal of the Arab initiative.
J. Al Khazen

Tue Jan 20, 04:45:00 AM PST  
Blogger Bloviating Zeppelin said...

Anonymous J. Al Khazen: my, that was lengthy. Then all Hamas must do is stop launching rockets and mortars. Very simple. Oh, and that hiding behind women and children thing would be of assistance as well.


Tue Jan 20, 09:49:00 AM PST  
Blogger Greywolfe said...

J. Al Kazan,

You've shown yourself to be a bit shortsighted. Palestinians were only brought into that area when the Israelis were forced out. Now they have their land back and you wish to push them back out. Palestinians, who are of Syrian descent, could always go back to the home of their forefathers, syria, and be welcomed with open arms. Prior to the RE-establishment of Israel, the syrians in the west bank and Gaza strip areas were nomadic shepards, I believe.

The only true reason to resist Israel's legitamacy is the same reason it has always been. The Islamic hatred of Jews. Your television teaches your young to believe that Jews are descendants of pigs. "Palestinian" tv teaches it's young to become suicide bombers and preach that the Jews are worse than filth.

Any religion that says that anyone that doesn't believe as they do should be converted by word or sword is a religion that deserves extinction. For me, Israel just didn't do a thorough enough job of it. Be glad they didn't decide to take a page from Islam's war book. Every man woman and child in Gaza and the West Bank that had syrian blood would already be dead.

That's what I continually hear from your beloved peace loving religion, death and murder of Israel, the U.S. and any other country that doesn't cowtow to Islamic insanity.

Tue Jan 20, 10:16:00 AM PST  
Blogger Bloviating Zeppelin said...

Why thank you, Greywolfe. I simply felt tasked, and you took point.


Tue Jan 20, 10:30:00 AM PST  
Blogger Average American said...

"It made a peace seeker like me call for the withdrawal of the Arab initiative."
J. Al Khazen

Show me one thing in that long comment that would let me believe that you are a peace-seeker, other than this line which is bullshit.

Tue Jan 20, 11:23:00 AM PST  
Blogger Bloviating Zeppelin said...

I am sensing this to be a mass-produced "drive-by" comment.


Tue Jan 20, 12:18:00 PM PST  
Blogger A Jacksonian said...

The Palestinians do not have to be 'promised' a State by anyone: they get one by making it themselves, creating the functions of government to invest their negative liberties and then use their positive liberties to build a good Nation.

Two sets of people got that chance in 1948.

One made a Nation.

The other complained one was not handed to them.

How unfortunate that those who could not make one do not sustain civil society and give harbor to those who reclaim their entire liberties and act as animals: beholden to no law, no justice and seek to force their ways upon others.

The Palestinians could get a State and a Nation by stopping their complaints, building their society, respecting their borders, and bringing to justice those that attack without sanction from their soil and demonstrating that the rule of law exists and that they will curb man who becomes animal to attack any to get their way.

They haven't done that and so I cannot accord those non-combatants as 'civilians' as they do NOTHING to uphold any civil law or stop those who have no sanction from attacking their neighbors. If you control yourselves you will get the Nation you seek, a modicum of peace and recognition that you do not harbor those seeking to inflict the Law of Nature upon others to get their way.

Two peoples got that chance and one took it. The other? Perhaps, when all other options are exhausted, they may, finally, try to enact a civil law that all within their bounds respect. One created laws they are held accountable to, the other has no laws and refuse to be held accountable to anything.

I can tell the difference.

That is very, very, very simple.

Wed Jan 21, 05:53:00 AM PST  
Blogger Bloviating Zeppelin said...

AJ: and THAT, sir, was a wonderful and cogent summation.


Wed Jan 21, 06:35:00 AM PST  
Blogger keven said...

The Palestinians are brave to fight
against the jets and attack helicopters and tanks of the IDF
with only the light weapons they have. It is hard to have any respect for the the IDF.

Fri Jan 15, 01:38:00 PM PST  

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