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Bloviating Zeppelin: Showing Respect To The Country One Wishes To Embrace

Bloviating Zeppelin

(in-ep-toc'-ra-cy) - a system of government where the least capable to lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a diminishing number of producers.

Thursday, March 30, 2006

Showing Respect To The Country One Wishes To Embrace

Photos that you won't seem in the so-called Mainstream Media or, as I term them, the Defeatist, Elitist Media (DEM).

The caption to the top photograph (thanks to Michalle Malkin):

Whittier area students from Pioneer, California and Whittier high schools walked out of classes to protest the proposed federal immigration bill March 27, 2006. The protestors put up the Mexican flag over the American flag flying upside down at Montebello High School.

The caption to the second photograph:

Michelle Marques (left), a student at Lamar Middle School in Irving, Texas, was criticized for having a US flag during an immigration protest at Kiest Park in Dallas. "My heart is with the Mexican flag and Mexico but I'm standing on American ground and I'm Mexican-American," she said.



Blogger TexasFred said...

March once, we can call it a 'protest', march again and some of us are going to look at it as 'aggression by foreign invaders' and will act accordingly...

Read that ANY way you choose..

Thu Mar 30, 08:10:00 AM PST  
Blogger James Manning said...

A lot of these kids have no idea what is going on. Most of them are leaving schools to be a part of something.

I posted on this. I think there is too much hypocrisy going on here. We want cheap labor but we don't want them here - and if we made them legal then we wouldn't have the cheap labor because then they'd have the freedom to move up the ladder.

I have no answers - but we might as well be realistic about immigration and know that corporations need a demographic to exploit so we can continue to get cheap fruit.

Thu Mar 30, 10:38:00 AM PST  
Blogger Assorted Babble by Suzie said...

I like your term of MSM!! It is a disgrace and I feel strongly that ALL-ILLEGALS should be required to get in line BEHIND the ones that are going about this in the legal way. In my opinion, as I keep posting about...we should start by sealing up the border...(in thoughts w/a fence)then deal w/ the 11-12 mil in this country. I have no problem with long as it is done legal. They could just start w/ the existing law...and then add on. (disgusted)

It makes me wonder if the teachers are behind this too and the ongoing question about what is being taught in public schools. Our spineless Senators...are more interested in these students being legal and their votes for 06 and 08. Since last week....I don't know which makes me the most angry...illegals or the Congress.

I feel polls or questions should be ask what the U.S.CITIZENS feel about this...I'd bet that the majority feel like we do...

Thu Mar 30, 11:26:00 AM PST  
Blogger Bloviating Zeppelin said...

Suzie: look one post back on my blog, and read the polls quoted by the Washington Times, and you'll see, essentially, who believes what and by what percentile.

James: the "work" plight is a Straw Man. Sowell writes, regarding "work":

"How often have we heard that illegal immigrants "take jobs that Americans will not do"? What is missing in this argument is what is crucial in any economic argument: price.

"Americans will not take many jobs at their current pay levels -- and those pay levels will not rise so long as poverty-stricken immigrants are willing to take those jobs.

"If Mexican journalists were flooding into the United States and taking jobs as reporters and editors at half the pay being earned by American reporters and editors, maybe people in the media would understand why the argument about "taking jobs that Americans don't want" is such nonsense.

"Another variation on the same theme is that we "need" the millions of illegal aliens already in the United States. "Need" is another word that blithely ignores prices.

"If jet planes were on sale for a thousand dollars each, I would probably "need" a couple of them -- an extra one to fly when the first one needed repair or maintenance. But since these planes cost millions of dollars, I don't even "need" one.

-- Too simple and too logical for most politicians and paid Immigrant Pimps to understand --


Thu Mar 30, 11:57:00 AM PST  
Blogger Gayle said...

The post is good, but your comment here is even better!

The bottom line is we must figure out some way to track illegals and deport those that are potentially harmful to this country. If we don't do that we are asking for it.

I think James is right also in saying that most of these kids are just joyful at getting a break from school. They'd take up any cause to get out of school!

Thu Mar 30, 12:06:00 PM PST  
Blogger Bloviating Zeppelin said...

Gayle: no disagreement there. It is, however, an insight into the mindset of those young persons and to whom they appear to owe their allegiance. They appear to be taking it a clear step beyond "milling about" for the purpose of simply avoiding school -- though there were obviously those with that sole goal.


Thu Mar 30, 12:39:00 PM PST  
Blogger The WordSmith from Nantucket said...

That first photo is infuriating and should be prominently displayed on every household tv set and in every frontpage paper. But then...that would serve as propaganda in the other direction, wouldn't it?

Thu Mar 30, 01:59:00 PM PST  
Blogger Bloviating Zeppelin said...

Wordsmith: why gawrsh, it shore WOULD -- which is why the DEM will stay far, FAR away.


Thu Mar 30, 02:52:00 PM PST  
Blogger A Jacksonian said...

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Thu Mar 30, 03:22:00 PM PST  
Blogger A Jacksonian said...

First off that 'cheap fruit' is coming at the price of subsidizing water use and subsidizing agriculture and having tariffs to protect those agricultural areas. Those subsidies *must* go.

Second the kids are being kids and I hope each and every one of them will be given detention for the next month. If they are here illegally, their parents need to be turned over to DHS to get tossed out of the country. I do not care if they pay taxes, they are not here legally. For the legals, bring the parents up on truancy charges. There is no such thing as free time off from school without a note from the parent. Otherwise the child cannot be accounted for when in the custodianship of the school system.

Thirdly, if they cannot respect the country they *want* to live in, then why the hell are they still here? Might want to ask their parents what they think of that. In fact a nice parent to school prinicipal chat would be a heartening thing to see, with pictures of their children protesting. This would be a good time to bring up the note and truancy subjects, too.

Fourth, the jobs are going away in that sector. Robotics is already fielding some of the early models for some fruits and vegetables. Expect all but the most difficult of fruits and vegetables to be done automated pickers in 10 years.

Fifth, we have an *unemployment* rate. For those that are physically able, picking fruit and vegetables at minimum wage is known as a *job*. If someone can show up for a *job* of good, honest work that pays above state benefits, then they should be glad to have that job. If the state is paying *more* than that for people who have had a job, they are subsidizing unemployment.

Sixth, cities that support illegal entry and prohibit federal enforcement are practicing something known as enforced servitude at a lower than nominal wage. This is also called trafficking in human beings and their labor. That is called slavery. Cities do not have the right to abrogate the first 6 articles of the Constitution. Doing so is known as Secession from the Union and usually triggers off a nasty response. Cities protecting these people from Federal enforcement are Slavery Cities that are Seceding from the Union.

Seventh, if they want to come here legally I am all for that. If they come here illegally they should be found, their enablers punished and imprisoned and their companies shut down. They are trafficking in human beings. They are using slave labor to get their cheap goods out. They should be castigated as such and imprisoned as such.

Eighth, the Mexican Federal Military and Police cross our borders on a weekly basis or more often to protect smugglers. Their Federal Government by not stopping this is condoning Acts of War. If they do so they are risking armed conflict with the United States of America. That must *end* IMMEDIATELY.

This is *not* a jobs issue.
This is *not* a racial issue.
This is *not* an economic opportunities issue.
This is *not* about cheap fruit, although there are some damn rotten apples out there.

This is about National Sovereignty.

This is about the rights of Nations to Govern themselves without being invaded.

This is about the rights of a People to ensure that their country has an expectations that their Sovereignty will be respected by ANY nation.

This is about Citizens of the United States being reminded that they must *first* understand the Constitution and realize that there are some things that they may *not* do as part of the agreement between ALL OF US.

The United States has the most welcoming immigration policy of any Nation on Earth. We ask that you speak English and understand the Constitution and swear an Oath of Fealty to hold no other Nation's interest before Ours.

These protesters do not *care* about the Constitution.
They do not *want* to abide by the compact between We The People.
They do not *want* to be Americans.
They do not *understand* that this is not their home country nor is it a State of Anarchy.
And Mexico in particular has shown no compunction about violating the National Sovereignty of the United States.

These are not weasel words.

These are not words of racism.

These are not words to denigrate a Group.

These are words to point out that this Nation of Free Individuals cannot stand if We do NOT protect our Sovereignty as a People.

The last time that areas within this country did such things, they seceded from the Union and there was a bloody Civil War.

I do not want to have a Second Civil War that will also be about Slavery! Because that will also put us in conflict with Mexico. This is a BAD thing to have happen in this hemisphere. All of the frustration being felt will be released in Warfare and it will not be pretty. Mexico will be decimated in such an affair. And in Victory the United States may just decide that it is not worth having Mexico as a neighbor.

That IS what will happen if certain segments of the population that enables this to continue will keep on pushing it.

Think on this: the United States has projected power into Afghanistan and Iraq. Deposed two tyrranical regimes and given 51 million people the chance to build new lives for themselves. We have given them great help and kindness to do so and continue to help them to stand on their own two feet. They may spurn us or tell us to leave, but what we did was good and necessary. We lost more men in the opening minutes in D-Day than we have lost to hostile fire since 9/11.

This was done with a peacetime economy in which Military and Rebuilding have consumed less than 5% of this Nation's GDP and probably closer to 4%. I do not think the world wants to see a United States devoting 10% or more of its Economy to Warfare. That is what a Civil War, War with Mexico and Continued War against Transnational Terrorists will do. The United States will be convinced it is in a Global World War.

And they would be RIGHT.

This is where all that *compassion* and *understanding* has gotten us: Transnational Terrorism, the decay of Western values, diminishment of the Individual, the abrogation of National Sovereignty from abroad, the abrogation of Our Constitution at home, and people *still* whining that terrorists and illegal aliens are *not* the villains.

Strangely that is CORRECT.

The villians are the ones who have convinced them it is OK to do these things through *compassion* and *understanding* and wanting to find *root causes* of problems and then dither over doing ANYTHING that might possibly upset someone, somewhere at some time.

Any more of such and we will cease to exist as a people and as a civilization. That *compassion* will KILL us because the world is not a nice place.

If someone cannot comprehend the law they need to be institutionalized because they are insane. THAT is compassion. If they can comprehend it and it is found that they willingly broke the law then they are a criminal and should be punished. THAT is justice. And if it is to make a buck and gain economic opportunity at the expense of law abiding Citizens and Landed Immigrants and Legal Workers on Visas, then they are tearing at the very social fabric that makes such opportunity possible.

Can I make my position on this any clearer?

Thu Mar 30, 03:25:00 PM PST  
Blogger Mahndisa S. Rigmaiden said...

03 31 06

Never give someone something that you don't have to give. I think that is the problem with how we view illegal immigrants. We either look at them as folks who are impoverished and want to make it OR a nuisence to be disposed with. Frankly people are people and some need to go, while others may not. I for one, think we need to address the situation as aggressively as possible and have mass deportations. However I don't know what the fiscal impact of such a move would be.

I also think that when you continuously view someone as a victim, like the DEMS do then you cannot adequately draft policy because you are afraid of hurting the victims, which turns out to be a bad idea. I recall taking courses with a fellow whose English was marginal. He admitted that he had illegally immigrated from Mexico, worked odd jobs and decided to go to junior college. After that, he transferred to SFSU to get a degree in Astrophysics. Now he ended up getting his Masters' and I think that is great. But I also have to admit that he was one of the shadiest students I have ever worked with! Because he had so much to lose, he had NO COMPUNCTION about stabbing someone in the back-myself included. Desperation and a lack of respect coupled to a bit of victimology goes a long way...

Fri Mar 31, 03:03:00 AM PST  
Blogger Mahndisa S. Rigmaiden said...

03 31 06

BTW: In time, he married a citizen and got his citizenship. Boy is he shady!

Fri Mar 31, 03:04:00 AM PST  
Blogger Bloviating Zeppelin said...

Whatever the "economic hardships," we will survive. Always have. Always will. Produce might go up. Inconveniences for menial labor might go up. Other associated costs would go up. Services associated with labor would go up. Clearly.

Oh well. Then those persons screaming about having to compete with others making less than minimum wage will then have the wages for jobs THEY would have taken go up. If some jobs don't get filled -- in time, they will. Capitalism abhors a vacuum.

Yes, it might be "tough" for a time. Big deal. "Tough" is relative. You'll live. Me too.


Fri Mar 31, 08:15:00 AM PST  
Blogger Assorted Babble by Suzie said...

Thanks, I'm going there now!! (smiling)
In need Jacksonian's expertise on a question...if he checks in here. (smiling)
Both you guys are way too smart for me. (smiling)
Have a great weekend!!!

Fri Mar 31, 08:18:00 AM PST  
Blogger A Jacksonian said...

Suzie - left you email... let me know what you need!

Fri Mar 31, 04:16:00 PM PST  

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