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(in-ep-toc'-ra-cy) - a system of government where the least capable to lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a diminishing number of producers.

Thursday, February 07, 2008

Ah, Islam:


A 37-year-old American businesswoman and married mother of three is seeking justice after she was thrown in jail by Saudi Arabia's religious police for sitting with a male colleague at a Starbucks coffee shop in Riyadh.

Yara, who does not want her last name published for fear of retribution, was bruised and crying when she was freed from a day in prison after she was strip-searched, threatened and forced to sign false confessions by the Kingdom's “Mutaween” police.


Ah yes, Islam, the religion of peace, tolerance, understanding, and consideration for the freedoms of women the world over.


BZ

19 Comments:

Blogger TexasFred said...

Ya see, here is where we differ, I don't give a damn what happens to them in THEIR homeland, she knew the rules...

When in Rome...

Wed Feb 06, 09:28:00 PM PST  
Blogger Mark said...

tf, you don't give a flip how Americans are treated overseas? WTF??

or is it just women deserve to get beat down?

or just American Women is Arabia?

howabout the Arabs killing their teenage daughters here is the US because they refuse to wear the hajib?

Just very little hunger or thirst for justice in you? or what?

these fundamentalist Muslims are sick freaks, and need a lesson or two in civility.

Thu Feb 07, 05:39:00 AM PST  
Anonymous WMD_Maker said...

I agree with TF, she knew the local rules in Saudi but decided to break them anyway. If she was single they more than likely would not have even let her in the country.

Thu Feb 07, 06:06:00 AM PST  
Blogger Bloviating Zeppelin said...

TF: aaah, but here's the rub: what happens THERE is soon to happen HERE because, after all, NO ONE will judge Islam in America. And here's the STRANGER conundrum: why is it that, only AFTER 9/11 did Muslims get center stage in America? Islam kills 3,000 people and we just THEN decide to hold them on a pedestal? Does that mean their tactics may be working?

Mark: yes, as you can see, it's already here. Perhaps we should use Australia as our Muslim model: hold to our culture or get the hell out.

WMD: true, and applicable THERE. My point: coming soon (or likely already arrived) to a theatre near YOU.

BZ

Thu Feb 07, 06:28:00 AM PST  
Blogger Gayle said...

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Thu Feb 07, 07:14:00 AM PST  
Blogger Gayle said...

It is very important to us, BZ, and exactly for the reason you stated, and I do care what happens to a person like the woman in your post, and all women there, American or Muslim!

The men there are male cheuvenist pigs, among other despicable things to numerous to go into here. If I lived there I'd be breaking the rules too, but of course I wouldn't live very long. No one with a mind of there own can follow the rules when they are as stifling and unfair as the rules Muslem men put on their women. They treat them worse than they do their livestock. Perhaps it's because they are pigs that they hate pigs so much, but I believe they hate women even more than they do pigs. If the liberals have their way we will be dealing with these idiots in this country and I will definitely not follow their rules! They are in our country and are not paying any atttention whatsoever to "When in Rome..."

Thu Feb 07, 07:19:00 AM PST  
Blogger Mark said...

there is no frggin possibility of Islam and any free society "getting along". sorry, it just 'aint possible. read the Quran and you will see that as obvious and plain as the nose on your face. the ONLY WAY to deal with the Islamics is just what the Aussie government did. tell them to live with the freedoms we enjoy or get the f--k out!

If we had the good sense to be about the business of producing our own energy we could tell the Saudi's to keep their shit over there and we could leave them alone but because stupid-ass liberals here cry and whine everytime they hear of an oil well being drilled in the US we have to do business with these assholes, women conduct business in the rest of the world, everybody seems to want to conduct business worldwide, the Saudi's should be held to the same standards of conduct as the rest of the world if they want to do business in it.

the best thing that could happen is we produce our own energy, and those assholes could get on with their 6th century existence.

Thu Feb 07, 09:16:00 AM PST  
Blogger Bloviating Zeppelin said...

Samuel Huntington wrote two excellent books about "Who We Are", etc. But the overarching question of "can these two cultures mix" -- ? The short answer is, in the current form is Islam, no. The differences are too great, the gulf too wide.

BZ

Thu Feb 07, 12:45:00 PM PST  
Blogger TexasFred said...

Mark, When it happens HERE, I will be concerned and address it, what YOU do in YOUR home is of NO concern to me, deal with it...

As I said, when in Rome, we can't dictate what THEY do in THEIR nation, and if you think we can, YOU are a fool, and I don't believe you are...

What's next?? you gonna tell em they can't speak Arabic??

What happens here is OUR business, what happens there is THEIRS...

Thu Feb 07, 12:54:00 PM PST  
Blogger TexasFred said...

Gayle, you are correct, they DON'T pay any attention to our customs, and THAT is OUR fault, it's called FREEDOM... And we GIVE it to all, but hey, if you want a NAZI style dictatorship where only WHITE and CHRISTIAN folks are allowed freedom and we execute the rest, hell yeah, git er done...

I love the goddamned 2 faced hypocrisy exhibited by so many freaking Bush Bot asshole idiots...

It's called the constitution you bunch of dumb shits, and until you change it, deal with it...

Thu Feb 07, 03:06:00 PM PST  
Blogger Mark said...

Islam has been at war with the west from the 8th century, they have never been too good to stay on their side of the fence, having tried to invade Europe in the 8th, 11th, and 15th and 18th centuries (and the US was in on the last one). fighting a war with a religion differs greatly from fighting wars with nations. Muslims are trying their damndest to invade and subvert or wear down western culture once again. and what do we do about it? why give them all our money for oil we could get elsewhere. much of Europe wants to bend over and take it, it seems, France is okay with dozens of cars getting burned every night, the Dutch seem okay with their women getting raped in the street. and the archbishop of canterbury wants Britain under sharia!
My full of this shit point is somewhat lower than most Europeans it seems, as I would expect a country to respect citizens from other countries conducting commerce in theirs if they want to conduct business with the world, that is. Frankly, I can't see where Muslims respect our customs here, or there. yet they demand we respect their customs there and here, both, or by allah there gonna kill us and take our heads!

screw them, and the camel they rode in on.

Thu Feb 07, 03:30:00 PM PST  
Blogger TexasFred said...

Mark said... screw them, and the camel they rode in on.
*****************
Best line of the whole damned thread...

Thu Feb 07, 03:33:00 PM PST  
Blogger Mark said...

just where in the constitution does it outline beating women senseless for having a cuppa joe with her male colleague? seems you are having a lot of trouble seeing just which has the "nazi style fascist government".

if you can find a moral equivalence between the Christan founded US government and Sharia, the delusion is on you, I'm afraid.

Thu Feb 07, 03:42:00 PM PST  
Blogger Mark said...

It is gettin real tiresome reading and hearing how the violence of violent muslims is all due to our treatment of them. WTF!!!

we give the clowns shiploads of money, throw dictators off their backs, demand the teeny-tiny nation of Israel divvy up land for them, demand Israel provide them free electricity, medical care, and especially free weapons. and still many of you all think we should apologize to these fools for something, WHAT!! tell me!

Thu Feb 07, 03:49:00 PM PST  
Blogger Bloviating Zeppelin said...

There are two things that everyone needs to see and read, and I'll make the subject of a post very shortly.

BZ

Thu Feb 07, 06:45:00 PM PST  
Blogger TexasFred said...

Mark, you really are dense aren't you??

The reference to the constitution has nothing to do with ANYONE being beat, it has everything to do with freedom of religion, and we grant that to all people in this nation...

This woman was arrested in Saudi Arabia, for a violation of their law, THAT is the part I don't give a damn about, you mess up in their country, your ass suffers THEIR penalty...

Now if they try to pull that bullshit HERE, that is another story, did you MISS that part??

Their nation, their law, they come here they adhere to OUR laws, but their religious practices are guaranteed BY the constitution, and if you have a problem with that, you need to get that pesky little freedom of religion thing changed...

Thu Feb 07, 07:23:00 PM PST  
Blogger TexasFred said...

BZ, where do you get these inflammatory topics?? I never post inflammatory stuff on MY site... LMAO...

Thu Feb 07, 07:24:00 PM PST  
Blogger Mark said...

well TF,

Jefferson had to send a fleet to the Mediterranean way back when our country was young and this nation could hardly afford such foolishness, why? to fight the damned Muslims who were committing piracy in a big way. doing business with these clowns costs us, big time.

Fri Feb 08, 04:01:00 AM PST  
Blogger Mark said...

the point of my last comment here is that you can't even do business AROUND muslims without it costing you. so why do it? at all?

Fri Feb 08, 08:36:00 AM PST  

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