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Bloviating Zeppelin: Next Up For Obama: HEALTHCARE

Bloviating Zeppelin

(in-ep-toc'-ra-cy) - a system of government where the least capable to lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a diminishing number of producers.

Wednesday, May 06, 2009

Next Up For Obama: HEALTHCARE

This is Mr Obama's Time.

And he's going to push whilst he's got the cushion for pushin' . . .

For SCOTUS, you can be guaranteed that since it lost Sandra Day O'Connor and will soon lose Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Mr Obama's nomination will be a female, and she'll be black or Mexican. He won't choose an Asian because they don't have an effective lobby, aren't a sufficient victim class, there aren't too many Asians involved in the Chicago Machine and they haven't paid enough cash to he and his supporters. So sorry. Money and politics. You can be guaranteed his selection will be as far Left as he can imagine because now, early on, is His Time.

Next, you'll see healthcame come up to the Obama Plate. He'll push all he can to enact something this year. Again, because it's His Time. It Is Written.

The Demorats already admit (video: Rep. Jan Schakowsky (D-IL) Admits Obama Healthcare Plan Will Destroy Insurance Industry) their goal is clearly to place government in charge -- kill the healthcare industry -- with your government-assigned doctor in a distant second place and you in third place. You won't know what's good for you, nor will your doctor -- only government.

And here's only a portion of what you'll get:

Wait times for surgery in Canada at all-time high: study
Last Updated: Monday, October 15, 2007 10:33 AM ET
The Canadian Press
A typical Canadian seeking surgical or other therapeutic treatment had to wait 18.3 weeks in 2007, an all-time high, according to new research published Monday by independent research organization the Fraser Institute.

"Despite government promises and the billions of dollars funnelled into the Canadian health-care system, the average patient waited more than 18 weeks in 2007 between seeing their family doctor and receiving the surgery or treatment they required," said Nadeem Esmail, director of Health System Performance Studies at the Fraser Institute and co-author of the 17th annual edition of Waiting Your Turn: Hospital Waiting Lists in Canada.

Total waiting times increased in six provinces: Alberta, Manitoba, Ontario, Quebec, Nova Scotia and Newfoundland and Labrador. (CBC)

The survey measures median waiting times to document the extent to which queues for visits to specialists and for diagnostic and surgical procedures are used to control health-care expenditures.

"It's becoming clearer that Canada's current health-care system cannot meet the needs of Canadians in a timely and efficient manner, unless you consider access to a waiting list timely and efficient," Esmail added.

The 2007 survey found the total median waiting time for patients between referral from a general practitioner and treatment, averaged across all 12 specialties and 10 provinces surveyed, increased to 18.3 weeks from 17.8 weeks observed in 2006. This was primarily due to an increase in the first waiting period, between seeing the general practitioner and attending a consultation with a specialist.

Total waiting times increased in six provinces: Alberta, Manitoba, Ontario, Quebec, Nova Scotia and Newfoundland and Labrador. This masked the decreased waiting times in British Columbia, Saskatchewan, New Brunswick and Prince Edward Island.

Waiting times best in Ontario
Ontario recorded the shortest waiting time overall (the wait between visiting a general practitioner and receiving treatment) at 15.0 weeks, followed by British Columbia (19.0 weeks) and Quebec (19.4 weeks). Saskatchewan (27.2 weeks), New Brunswick (25.2 weeks) and Nova Scotia (24.8 weeks) recorded the longest waits in Canada.

The waiting time between referral by a GP and consultation with a specialist rose to 9.2 weeks from the 8.8 weeks recorded in 2006. The shortest waits for specialist consultations were in Ontario (7.6 weeks), Manitoba (8.2 weeks) and British Columbia (8.8 weeks).

The longest waits for consultation with a specialist were recorded in New Brunswick (14.7 weeks), Newfoundland and Labrador (13.5 weeks) and Prince Edward Island (12.7 weeks).
The waiting time between specialist consultation and treatment — the second stage of waiting — increased to 9.1 weeks from 9.0 weeks in 2006.

The shortest specialist-to-treatment waits were found in Ontario (7.3 weeks), Alberta (8.9 weeks) and Quebec (9.4 weeks), while the longest waits were in Saskatchewan (16.5 weeks), Nova Scotia (13.6 weeks) and Manitoba (12.0 weeks).

Among the various specialties, the shortest total waits (between referral by a general practitioner and treatment) occurred in medical oncology (4.2 weeks), radiation oncology (5.7 weeks) and elective cardiovascular surgery (8.4 weeks).

Patients waited longest between a GP referral and orthopedic surgery (38.1 weeks), plastic surgery (34.8 weeks) and neurosurgery (27.2 weeks).

Nova Scotia best for CT scans
As in past years, patients also experienced significant waiting times for various diagnostic technologies across Canada: computed tomography (CT), magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) and ultrasound scans.

The median wait for a CT scan across Canada was 4.8 weeks. British Columbia, Alberta, Ontario, New Brunswick and Nova Scotia had the shortest wait for CT scans (4.0 weeks), while the longest wait occurred in Manitoba (8.0 weeks).

The median wait for an MRI across Canada was 10.1 weeks. Patients in Ontario experienced the shortest wait for an MRI (7.8 weeks), while Newfoundland and Labrador residents waited longest (20.0 weeks).

As my brother pointed out: "And for those left-leaning folks who think we can do better (or even as well) than Canada in health care, remember this: Canada does not have to put up with legions of lawyers hiding behind every potted plant in every doctor's office just waiting for something to go amiss. NOBODY will ever argue that the key behind access to heath care is MONEY and whenever you take ANY money out of that which is available for health care, it leaves just that much less for the folks who really need it and lengthens the waiting time for access to it."

You'll get: rationing.

The devil is in the details, and how many people will read the details? What kind of healthcare can you craft in a ramdown fashion?

If it's single-payer (government only) healthcare then do what I call the "logical extension" -- this means that, like any other budget item, there is a limited pool of cash available each budget year. When that pool runs out, rationing begins. There are only so many beds. A knee replacement at 55? No, the government says, you're a tad long in the tooth. We'd get more bang for our buck out of someone, say, in her late 30's or early 40's.

Some systems (and watch out!) will not even allow you to possess your own privately-paid healthcare. Your chances of being able to select or even keep your favorite doctor? Perish the thought, the G knows all. Hope you don't want any cosmetic-type surgery, that's just plain unwarranted and a waste of money.

Everyone will be equal. Isn't that admirable? So that nice, new, young illegal Mexican on the waiting list just may receive the heart or kidney way ahead of your brother, your sister, yourself.

If you think it's even remotely difficult fighting your HMO or other health organization for any number of reasons to include billing, actual medical care or otherwise, you have no idea what fighting is like, if you've ever had to fight any government entity, much less the federal government.

You will get, as I've said and written on any number of prior occasions, a healthcare system with all the efficiency, consideration, courtesy, logic, care and humanity of your local DMV.

You thought there was an amnesty ramdown? A stimulus ramdown? Gird thy loins, you're about to be assaulted by the healthcare ramdown. Because the G doesn't want you to glean the details.

So, all you fat young kids? Best not get sick. Or older. Because you won't care for the way you're not going to get treated.



Blogger Rivka said...

Again, my son in law is a doctor doing his residency. He has had 12-14 years of school after high school to specialize in a certain practice. He has school bills left to pay AND mal-practice insurance which is high for doctors. NOW after all this hard work and believe me they work hard..After only having 2 more years left of his residency he is facing socialized health care which will tie his hands and reduce his income. That isn't right.

Wed May 06, 09:04:00 AM PDT  
Blogger Bloviating Zeppelin said...

The Left is all about various "chilling effects"; I submit that hamstringing the ability of doctors to earn above and beyond that of, say, an auto mechanic, will GUARANTEE a continuing lack of doctors and nurses in our future.

People NEED to be motivated to achieve above and beyond; MONEY is the key way of doing this. ALTRUISM won't work in and of itself in the real world.


Wed May 06, 10:32:00 AM PDT  
Blogger Gayle said...

I visit a blogger by the name of Canadian Sentinel who has told me horror stories about Canada's health care, some personal and some not. It's a horrid system, but then any system run by socialism is horrible. But we have to grin and bear it, I guess, because there's nothing we can do about it now.

Two people from Acorn are up on charges for voter fraud. Just two! I'm sure there are more than two who illegally helped get us into this horrid situation.

Wed May 06, 11:15:00 AM PDT  
Blogger Bloviating Zeppelin said...

ACORN. There's a joke. But the national ACORN ObamaCorps is brewing, in order to develop new, young government dependents!


Wed May 06, 12:21:00 PM PDT  
Blogger Thomas Lawrence said...

BZ, excellent point about why the next supreme court nominee won't be an Asian. Amazingly, Asians seem to have assimilated and have rejected the "victimhood" associated with...others in our multi-culti society.

And as I've heard said many times: you think health care is expensive now...wait til it's "free".

Wed May 06, 12:58:00 PM PDT  
Blogger Bloviating Zeppelin said...

Larry: that's the ultimate point -- "wait 'till it's 'free'."


Wed May 06, 03:16:00 PM PDT  
Blogger Carlisleboy said...

I just can not believe that ANYBODY thinks Socialized Health Care is a good Thing. Look at how Fu@ked up Medicare is NOW!! Just imagine when all 300 million of us are on the rolls. And Does anyone else find it chilling that some little gvt bureacratic freak will have full access to our medical records?
The Alaska Independence Party is looking better and better!

Wed May 06, 04:30:00 PM PDT  
Blogger Rivka said...

Carlisle boy,
Exactly.. Look at medicare and look at the U.S. Postal service! Someone in my family works for the postal service. He has LOTS of stories where he got in trouble going out of his way to help a customer. Not just one but several. He didn't violate any rules, but they are on a 'time' frame and even though it didn't put him back any time, he got in trouble. He is the kind of guy who does his work with excellence and likes to help people, but when you work for the government they don't give a flip about their customers. Also, the way they do things at the post office is totally ridiculous. A lot of times it doesn't make sense. This is what they will do with our health care.

Wed May 06, 04:59:00 PM PDT  
Blogger A Jacksonian said...

And under the Obama conception your doctor just 'might' be allowed to have some say on your health care... plus an 'ethicist' and all sorts of other people to determine if you are worthy of treatment.

Notice who is missing in that?

You are.

You will no longer have a say on your own healthcare... and for that we will bankrupt the country farther, deeper, faster and worse than any European country.

When will we realize that subsidizing healthcare gets us the problems of subsidies: uneconomical use of it?

And that 'free' healthcare gets you: the tragedy of the commons. Britain has a dearth of UK doctors so they have to import them from Pakistan. Such a help, that is!

And then there is the government overhead problem which comes with government intervention in health care. Soon it turns into the NASA program dilemma.

You can have low cost health care.
You can have high quality health care.
You can have readily available health care.

Choose 2 out of 3.

Yes, they are that way, and think about it just a bit and you will realize it. And even much lauded Germany is looking to off-load its portion onto the private system... which you wouldn't have if government was able to do all 3 simultaneously. If you think it is 'broken' now, just wait until government steps in.

Wed May 06, 05:36:00 PM PDT  
Blogger Maggie Thornton said...

This terrifies me about as much as any of the Obama policies. Once private healthcare is dismantled, it will take years to move back to an efficient private sector. In the meantime, we have all the emotional trauma of losing good doctors we trust, while the government builds the perfect way to hold us hostage - our health. I can visualize the government doing the scheduling and if you are not a supporter you get shoved even farther back in the line. In fact, you may never get to the top, and if you do get there, you may get the guy at the bottom of his medical school graduating class...because you are a right wing extremist.

Maybe the doctors won't need to go to medical school. Silly me.

Wed May 06, 05:39:00 PM PDT  
Blogger Always On Watch said...

I used to think that BHO couldn't get such a plan through Congress as national health care has always led to a Congressional dead end, the exception being Medicare, of course.

Now I am convinced that national health care, not called exactly that because such a label would send up too many red flags, will be in force by January 1, 2010.

We over age 50 are screwed!

Thu May 07, 05:26:00 AM PDT  
Blogger Bloviating Zeppelin said...

CB: The upper left corner of the world is looking better and better, eh?

Rivka: because it's the GOVERNMENT.

AJ: EVERY point you write is valid! But the Left will not tolerate anything but perfection in their worldly vacuum. And there is a GREAT difference between THEIR perfection and reality.

Maggie: yes, at this point the government isn't even CONSIDERING the physician factor.

AOW: yes, we are screwed. But what the young don't realize is that, as bad as it'll be for US, it will be geometrically WORSE for them.

Instead of needing organ transplants or dialysis in our 60s and 70s, this current generation of overweight, coddled, pampered, physically unfit morons will have their hearts exploding in their late 20s and early 30s. At just the perfect time: when government healthcare will suffer from even GREATER rationing. There will then be, at that point, so few persons making fiscal input into the system vs. those unfit, obese coneheads that they'll be dying off at a greater rate than you and I ever envisioned.


Thu May 07, 06:06:00 AM PDT  
Blogger Chris said...

well, those who are for govt run health care need to get sick and go to a VA hospital. 100% govt run health care at its finest. I am a veteran and I called a month ago to see the doctor, they didn't have an appointment for 2 months!!!!! all of you people who want that sub par system, imagine what the VA system will be like when there is no private industry for healthcare.

BZ - I urge you to go to my buddy's blog again to read about the VA thing. he is a vet like me (young ones that is !!!) and he has a wonderful post on govt run care.

I go online with my phone so I can't paste the actual link on here, sorry about not having a hot link, and only having the url

Thu May 07, 06:13:00 AM PDT  
Blogger Bloviating Zeppelin said...

Thanks Chris, I'll go check it out!


Thu May 07, 10:57:00 AM PDT  

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